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Firefox download link ... [Fx43] review for win 64-bit

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  1. ideato 567 posts
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    AliceWyman said

    I have a pending edit to remove the /firefox/all/ download link since we already link to www.mozilla.org and to the related articles to install Firefox. Also, the How to download and install Firefox on Windows article now includes a For advanced users note that says, The Firefox download page automatically chooses the best available version of Firefox for your computer and provides an online (stub) installer. If you need a full, offline installer or if you want to have a choice of the language and operating system for your Firefox installation, please visit the Systems & Languages download page instead.

    Definitely correct, done :-)

    ''AliceWyman [[#post-12862|said]]'' <blockquote> I have a pending edit to remove the /firefox/all/ download link since we already link to www.mozilla.org and to the related articles to install Firefox. Also, the [[How to download and install Firefox on Windows]] article now includes a '''For advanced users''' note that says, ''The [http://www.getfirefox.com/ Firefox download page] automatically chooses the best available version of Firefox for your computer and provides an online (stub) installer. If you need a full, offline installer or if you want to have a choice of the language and operating system for your Firefox installation, please visit the [https://www.mozilla.org/firefox/all/ Systems & Languages download page] instead.'' </blockquote> Definitely correct, done :-)
  2. Tonnes 53 posts
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    I’m not sure if it’s a good idea to remove the link to https://www.mozilla.org/firefox/all/ from the How to update page as an alternative. There’s a reason to include it (it has been there for a while IIRC), most users updating probably won’t even visit the How to install page (and may not notice that link there if they did), and we’d only rely on the www.mozilla.org page now.

    Personally I don’t like being directed to the main page - some may find it "too busy", it only (!) offers the stub installer for the detected OS and language (never rely too much on technical solutions), while some may find a "choice" of various locales and OSs a nice-to-have, e.g. for other systems at home so they can do offline installs for those instead of revisitng the page every time, no matter if some link is mentioned on several places.

    Note that in the past there have been questions about where to find the "Other systems and languagues" page by users. They could even be motivated to install another language at the point of updating while at it (i.e. rather switch to the en-US version, or find out there is a localized version instead and switch to that). It can be different per locale, but for ours, many people use en-US versions (and OSes) and hence may come to the point of switching now and then. Directing them to the main page is kind of a limitation from that perspective. I just don’t think we should "lead" users that much and rely on certain pages and included links, unless there is a real good reason, like avoiding too many traffic to some place, or a web page that will be removed, etc. If we do, we’re kind of instructing users how to behave on Sumo, and maybe worse, limiting downloads. Better have a few links too much than too little. Also note that the FTP site is gone, which may be another reason to treat that page nicely.

    For the moment and for those reasons, I left it in for our locale.

    I’m not sure if it’s a good idea to remove the link to https://www.mozilla.org/firefox/all/ from the How to update page as an alternative. There’s a reason to include it (it has been there for a while IIRC), most users updating probably won’t even visit the How to install page (and may not notice that link there if they did), and we’d only rely on the www.mozilla.org page now. Personally I don’t like being directed to the main page - some may find it "too busy", it only (!) offers the stub installer for the detected OS and language (never rely too much on technical solutions), while some may find a "choice" of various locales and OSs a nice-to-have, e.g. for other systems at home so they can do offline installs for those instead of revisitng the page every time, no matter if some link is mentioned on several places. Note that in the past there have been questions about where to find the "Other systems and languagues" page by users. They could even be motivated to install another language at the point of updating while at it (i.e. rather switch to the en-US version, or find out there is a localized version instead and switch to that). It can be different per locale, but for ours, many people use en-US versions (and OSes) and hence may come to the point of switching now and then. Directing them to the main page is kind of a limitation from that perspective. I just don’t think we should "lead" users that much and rely on certain pages and included links, unless there is a real good reason, like avoiding too many traffic to some place, or a web page that will be removed, etc. If we do, we’re kind of instructing users how to behave on Sumo, and maybe worse, limiting downloads. Better have a few links too much than too little. Also note that the FTP site is gone, which may be another reason to treat that page nicely. For the moment and for those reasons, I left it in for our locale.
  3. AliceWyman 4749 posts
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    I'll add a "Needs change" entry to review adding back the firefox/all page when the How to download and install Firefox on Windows article is updated to explain about the win64-bit download.

    P.s. Related discussion: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-download-and-install-firefox-windows/discuss/6219 [Dec 15 2015] when Fx 43 is released, update to mention Win 64-bit installer on firefox/all page

    I'll add a "Needs change" entry to review adding back the firefox/all page when the [[How to download and install Firefox on Windows]] article is updated to explain about the win64-bit download. P.s. Related discussion: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-download-and-install-firefox-windows/discuss/6219 ''[Dec 15 2015] when Fx 43 is released, update to mention Win 64-bit installer on firefox/all page''
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  4. AliceWyman 4749 posts
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    I made a new revision to add back the firefox/all page since the www.mozilla.org page is currently a mess.

    I made a new revision to add back the firefox/all page since the www.mozilla.org page is currently a mess.
  5. AliceWyman 4749 posts
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    AliceWyman said on October 31, 2014 (page 1)

    Joni said
    Thanks, Alice! I just received a note that Chris More fixed the IE problem. Would you like to try it again?

    I tested it again and the direct link to https://www.mozilla.org/firefox/new/?scene=2#download-fx (which is now in the article) still doesn't work [*] in Internet Explorer 10 on Windows 7, even after clearing my IE History, cookies and TIF in Internet Options. I have to use the www.mozilla.org "Download Firefox / Free Download" link before I see the infobar that allows me to run or save the Firefox Setup Stub 33.0.2.exe installer.

    [*] Screenshot of what I see when using the direct link: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/gallery/image/19552

    Using the direct link to https://www.mozilla.org/firefox/new/?scene=2#download-fx in Internet Explorer 11 works. It shows the infobar to run or save Firefox Setup Stub 43.0.exe - see https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/gallery/image/23826 - so I think we should replace www.mozilla.org with the direct link. I made a new revision to do that.

    Also somewhat related: Bug 874913 - Point all bedrock download buttons to the second scene of download page /firefox/new/#download-fx

    ''AliceWyman [/en-US/kb/update-firefox-latest-version/discuss/4694?page=1#post-10310 said]'' ''on October 31, 2014 (page 1)'' <blockquote> ''Joni [[#post-10309|said]]'' <blockquote> Thanks, Alice! I just received a note that Chris More fixed the IE problem. Would you like to try it again? </blockquote> I tested it again and the direct link to https://www.mozilla.org/firefox/new/?scene=2#download-fx (which is now in the article) still doesn't work [*] in Internet Explorer 10 on Windows 7, even after clearing my IE History, cookies and TIF in Internet Options. I have to use the www.mozilla.org "Download Firefox / Free Download" link before I see the infobar that allows me to run or save the Firefox Setup Stub 33.0.2.exe installer. [*] Screenshot of what I see when using the direct link: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/gallery/image/19552 </blockquote> Using the direct link to https://www.mozilla.org/firefox/new/?scene=2#download-fx in Internet Explorer 11 works. It shows the infobar to run or save Firefox Setup Stub 43.0.exe - see https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/gallery/image/23826 - so I think we should replace www.mozilla.org with the direct link. I made a new revision to do that. Also somewhat related: [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=874913 Bug 874913] - Point all bedrock download buttons to the second scene of download page /firefox/new/#download-fx
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