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[Fx46, 47] General panel: change in Tabs settings. [Fx40] Add "Warn me when closing multiple tabs" entry (bug 1063625)

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  1. AliceWyman 4950 posts
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    https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/forums/contributors/712001 Firefox 47 Release Notes / Issues / Discussions

    'philipp said

    Firefox 47 is scheduled to be released on 2016-06-07 <snip>
    • the don't load tabs until selected checkbox has been removed from the main firefox preference window (& will be on by default). also, users who had un-ticked it in the past will be transitioned to a state where tabs don't load until selected again, because otherwise this would cause performance degradation with the e10s multiprocess architecture later on. despite this i think it is still possible to manually control the behaviour through the browser.sessionstore.restore_on_demand pref - bug 1257554

    Bug 1257554 - [e10s] Remove restore on demand checkbox

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    Fx47GeneralPanel
    https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/forums/contributors/712001 Firefox 47 Release Notes / Issues / Discussions 'philipp said '' <blockquote> Firefox 47 is scheduled to be released on 2016-06-07 <snip> * the '''don't load tabs until selected''' checkbox has been removed from the main firefox preference window (& will be on by default). also, users who had un-ticked it in the past will be transitioned to a state where tabs don't load until selected again, because otherwise this would cause performance degradation with the e10s multiprocess architecture later on. despite this i think it is still possible to manually control the behaviour through the ''browser.sessionstore.restore_on_demand'' pref - [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1257554 bug 1257554] </blockquote> [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1257554 Bug 1257554] - [e10s] Remove restore on demand checkbox Image:Fx47GeneralPanel ;[[Image:Fx47GeneralPanel]]
  2. AliceWyman 4950 posts
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    The General panel Tabs settings also changed in Firefox 46 (or earlier). These other Tabs options described in this article are no longer offered:

    • Warn me when closing multiple tabs
    • Warn me when opening multiple tabs might slow down Firefox

    Here's a screenshot of the Firefox 46 General Panel (on Windows 7) Image:Fx46GeneralPanel

    Fx46GeneralPanel
    The General panel Tabs settings also changed in Firefox 46 (or earlier). These other Tabs options described in this article are no longer offered: * '''Warn me when closing multiple tabs''' * '''Warn me when opening multiple tabs might slow down Firefox''' Here's a screenshot of the Firefox 46 General Panel (on Windows 7) Image:Fx46GeneralPanel ;[[Image:Fx46GeneralPanel]]
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  3. AliceWyman 4950 posts
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    P.S. When we update this article for Firefox 47 we may want to mention that the Don't load tabs until selected setting was removed in Firefox 47 and the associated preference browser.sessionstore.restore_on_demand was automatically reset to the default (true) value for those users who may have customized that setting in Firefox 46 or earlier by clearing the checkbox (see bug 1260460 comment 30 for details). We could also link to the new article, Allow Firefox to load multiple tabs in the background

    P.S. When we update this article for Firefox 47 we may want to mention that the '''Don't load tabs until selected''' setting was removed in Firefox 47 and the associated preference ''browser.sessionstore.restore_on_demand'' was automatically reset to the default (true) value for those users who may have customized that setting in Firefox 46 or earlier by clearing the checkbox (see [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1260460#c30 bug 1260460 comment 30] for details). We could also link to the new article, [[Allow Firefox to load multiple tabs in the background]]
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  4. AliceWyman 4950 posts
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    I updated the article for fx46 (and for win10) and I, removed outdated content. Still need fx47 update.

    I updated the article for fx46 (and for win10) and I, removed outdated content. Still need fx47 update.
  5. AliceWyman 4950 posts
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    AliceWyman said

    Still need fx47 update.

    Done (by Chris Ilias).

    ''AliceWyman [[#post-13792|said]]'' <blockquote> Still need fx47 update. </blockquote> Done (by Chris Ilias).
  6. Tonnes 63 posts
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    I don’t want to cause workload but this question just tought me that the "Warn me when closing multiple tabs" option has actually not been removed in 46 (no wonder it can still be found in its l10n file), but merely hidden unless a user chose "Don't show me again" in order to not clutter up the options dialog.

    I don’t want to cause workload but [https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1133576 this question] just tought me that the "Warn me when closing multiple tabs" option has actually not been removed in 46 (no wonder it can still be found in its l10n file), but merely hidden unless a user chose "Don't show me again" in order to not clutter up the options dialog.
  7. AliceWyman 4950 posts
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    Tonnes said

    I don’t want to cause workload but this question just tought me that the "Warn me when closing multiple tabs" option has actually not been removed in 46 (no wonder it can still be found in its l10n file), but merely hidden unless a user chose "Don't show me again" in order to not clutter up the options dialog.

    I see you pointed the user to Bug 419009 - Warning if closing multiple tabs is not working (READ COMMENT #142)

    The Tabs setting, "Warn me when closing multiple tabs" was removed from this article in Firefox 46 since it's no longer available in the about:preferences UI.

    It seems like you're asking about the "Confirm close" dialog with the checked box, "Warn me when I attempt to close multiple tabs". Fx48Multiple tabs-ConfirmClose

    Fx48Multiple tabs-ConfirmClose

    Unchecking the box stops the warning and sets the preference browser.tabs.warnOnClose to false in about:config. To restore the "Confirm close" prompt you would reset the preference to "true", the default setting. We don't mention that in any Firefox article on Tabs.

    This is a "How to" article explaining the General Panel settings. I don't think we should add that information to this article since we normally limit about:config fixes to troubleshooting issues.

    ''Tonnes [[#post-14229|said]]'' <blockquote> I don’t want to cause workload but [https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1133576 this question] just tought me that the "Warn me when closing multiple tabs" option has actually not been removed in 46 (no wonder it can still be found in its l10n file), but merely hidden unless a user chose "Don't show me again" in order to not clutter up the options dialog. </blockquote> I see you pointed the user to [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=419009 Bug 419009] - Warning if closing multiple tabs is not working (READ COMMENT #142) The Tabs setting, "Warn me when closing multiple tabs" was removed from this article in Firefox 46 since it's no longer available in the about:preferences UI. It seems like you're asking about the "Confirm close" dialog with the checked box, "Warn me when I attempt to close multiple tabs". Fx48Multiple tabs-ConfirmClose ;[[Image:Fx48Multiple tabs-ConfirmClose]] Unchecking the box stops the warning and sets the preference ''browser.tabs.warnOnClose'' to '''false''' in about:config. To restore the "Confirm close" prompt you would reset the preference to "true", the default setting. We don't mention that in any Firefox article on Tabs. This is a "How to" article explaining the General Panel settings. I don't think we should add that information to this article since we normally limit about:config fixes to troubleshooting issues.
  8. Chris Ilias 1980 posts
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    AliceWyman said

    The Tabs setting, "Warn me when closing multiple tabs" was removed from this article in Firefox 46 since it's no longer available in the about:preferences UI.

    I think what he's saying is that it is available in about:preferences if browser.tabs.warnOnClose is set to false.

    STR

    1. Open a few webpages in separate Firefox tabs.
    2. Close Firefox.
    3. When you get the Confirm close prompt, uncheck "Warn me when I attempt to close multiple tabs".
    4. Open Firefox, and go to about:preferences.

    Result: "Warn me when closing multiple tabs" is in about:preferences without the use of about:config.

    Right now, I think we should re-add it to the article, with something indicating that it appears conditionally.

    ''AliceWyman [[#post-14230|said]]'' <blockquote> The Tabs setting, "Warn me when closing multiple tabs" was removed from this article in Firefox 46 since it's no longer available in the about:preferences UI. </blockquote> I think what he's saying is that it ''is'' available in about:preferences if browser.tabs.warnOnClose is set to false. <u>STR</u> # Open a few webpages in separate Firefox tabs. # Close Firefox. # When you get the Confirm close prompt, uncheck "Warn me when I attempt to close multiple tabs". # Open Firefox, and go to about:preferences. Result: "Warn me when closing multiple tabs" is in about:preferences without the use of about:config. Right now, I think we should re-add it to the article, with something indicating that it appears conditionally.
  9. Tonnes 63 posts
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    There is no about:config involved allright. I should also have added a link to bug 1063625 for reference.

    There is no about:config involved allright. I should also have added a link to [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1063625 bug 1063625] for reference.
  10. AliceWyman 4950 posts
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    Chris Ilias said

    I think what he's saying is that it is available in about:preferences if browser.tabs.warnOnClose is set to false. STR
    1. Open a few webpages in separate Firefox tabs.
    2. Close Firefox.
    3. When you get the Confirm close prompt, uncheck "Warn me when I attempt to close multiple tabs".
    4. Open Firefox, and go to about:preferences.
    Result: "Warn me when closing multiple tabs" is in about:preferences without the use of about:config. Right now, I think we should re-add it to the article, with something indicating that it appears conditionally.

    Tonnes said

    There is no about:config involved allright. I should also have added a link to bug 1063625 for reference.

    Thank you both.

    I agree, it should be added back to the article for Firefox 40 and above, since bug 1063625 indicates that's when it changed. I'll leave that up to Chris or Tonnes (I'll add a "needs change"entry).

    ''Chris Ilias [[#post-14232|said]]'' <blockquote> I think what he's saying is that it ''is'' available in about:preferences if browser.tabs.warnOnClose is set to false. <u>STR</u> # Open a few webpages in separate Firefox tabs. # Close Firefox. # When you get the Confirm close prompt, uncheck "Warn me when I attempt to close multiple tabs". # Open Firefox, and go to about:preferences. Result: "Warn me when closing multiple tabs" is in about:preferences without the use of about:config. Right now, I think we should re-add it to the article, with something indicating that it appears conditionally. </blockquote> ''Tonnes [[#post-14233|said]]'' <blockquote> There is no about:config involved allright. I should also have added a link to [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1063625 bug 1063625] for reference. </blockquote> Thank you both. I agree, it should be added back to the article for Firefox 40 and above, since [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1063625 bug 1063625] indicates that's when it changed. <s>I'll leave that up to Chris or Tonnes</s> (I'll add a "needs change"entry).
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  11. AliceWyman 4950 posts
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    AliceWyman said

    I agree, it should be added back to the article for Firefox 40 and above, since bug 1063625 indicates that's when it changed. I'll leave that up to Chris or Tonnes (I'll add a "needs change"entry).

    I went ahead and made a new revision (needs review).

    ''AliceWyman [[#post-14234|said]]'' <blockquote> I agree, it should be added back to the article for Firefox 40 and above, since [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1063625 bug 1063625] indicates that's when it changed. <s>I'll leave that up to Chris or Tonnes</s> (I'll add a "needs change"entry). </blockquote> I went ahead and made a new revision (needs review).
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  12. Chris Ilias 1980 posts
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    Because of the formatting, I found it hard to read, so I tried rearranging it. It's a tough one to explain clearly. :(

    Because of the formatting, I found it hard to read, so I tried rearranging it. It's a tough one to explain clearly. :(
  13. AliceWyman 4950 posts
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    Chris Ilias said

    Because of the formatting, I found it hard to read, so I tried rearranging it. It's a tough one to explain clearly. :(

    I agree, this was a tough one. I made a few more edits and approved it. If you think it's OK, we can mark it ready to localize.

    ''Chris Ilias [[#post-14249|said]]'' <blockquote> Because of the formatting, I found it hard to read, so I tried rearranging it. It's a tough one to explain clearly. :( </blockquote> I agree, this was a tough one. I made a few more edits and approved it. If you think it's OK, we can mark it ready to localize.
  14. Chris Ilias 1980 posts
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    I think it still needs work. At first I thought we would only need to write it for those who see the pref, but then I realized that most people reading it will not see the pref, so we'd have to explain how it gets there as well.

    I also think it uses the word "this" too much. "This preference is..." "Check this preference to..." "This warning helps..." "This setting has no effect..."

    Those are consecutive sentences.

    In the meantime, I've moved the notes inside the bullet points to align the indentation. I think that was one of the reasons I found it hard to read.

    I think it still needs work. At first I thought we would only need to write it for those who see the pref, but then I realized that most people reading it will not see the pref, so we'd have to explain how it gets there as well. I also think it uses the word "this" too much. "''This'' preference is..." "Check ''this'' preference to..." "''This'' warning helps..." "''This'' setting has no effect..." Those are consecutive sentences. In the meantime, I've moved the notes inside the bullet points to align the indentation. I think that was one of the reasons I found it hard to read.
  15. AliceWyman 4950 posts
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    Chris, I never got an email for your last comment so I marked the revision you made to move the notes as RFL when I approved it.

    I didn't notice the overuse of "this".

    I think the article already explains how the preference gets there. It says that the option/preference is available if you disabled the warning.. I just made another small edit to change "available" to "only shown" that could be approved as "minor" but I'll wait to see if you come up with another revision.

    We can always improve the article but in the meantime I think it's ready to localize.

    Chris, I never got an email for your last comment so I marked the revision you made to move the notes as RFL when I approved it. I didn't notice the overuse of "this". I think the article already explains how the preference gets there. It says that the option/preference '' is available if you disabled the warning.''. I just made another [https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/startup-home-page-tabs-download-settings/compare?locale=en-US&to=130263&from=130250 small edit] to change "available" to "only shown" that could be approved as "minor" but I'll wait to see if you come up with another revision. We can always improve the article but in the meantime I think it's ready to localize.
  16. AliceWyman 4950 posts
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    I made a new revision for the Fx40+ conditional options. I placed This {for win}option{/for}{for mac,linux}preference{/for} is only shown if you disabled the warning that Firefox displays ... before the explanation. I also tried to reduce the number of times "this" is used.

    I made a new revision for the Fx40+ conditional options. I placed ''This {for win}option{/for}{for mac,linux}preference{/for} is only shown if you disabled the warning that Firefox displays ...'' before the explanation. I also tried to reduce the number of times "this" is used.
  17. Chris Ilias 1980 posts
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    I suspect we're going to be keep going back and forth with this. :)

    I suspect we're going to be keep going back and forth with this. :)