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Add "Firefox" to search summary ... and change the article title

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  1. AliceWyman 4808 posts
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    "Private Browsing - Browse the web without saving information about the sites you visit" is the current title of this article. It's a very long title, 86 characters including spaces.

    When searching for this article in Google, for example, it appears in the search results as Private Browsing - Browse the web without saving ... with no indication that its about Firefox.

    I think the title could be shortened to something like, Private Browsing - Control what information Firefox saves

    The search summary doesn't mention Firefox either so that should be fixed, at the very least.

    "Private Browsing - Browse the web without saving information about the sites you visit" is the current title of this article. It's a very long title, 86 characters including spaces. When searching for this article in Google, for example, it appears in the search results as '''Private Browsing - Browse the web without saving ...''' with no indication that its about Firefox. I think the title could be shortened to something like, '''Private Browsing - Control what information Firefox saves''' The search summary doesn't mention Firefox either so that should be fixed, at the very least.
  2. ideato 567 posts
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    AliceWyman said

    "Private Browsing - Browse the web without saving information about the sites you visit" is the current title of this article. It's a very long title, 86 characters including spaces. When searching for this article in Google, for example, it appears in the search results as Private Browsing - Browse the web without saving ... with no indication that its about Firefox. I think the title could be shortened to something like, Private Browsing - Control what information Firefox saves The search summary doesn't mention Firefox either so that should be fixed, at the very least.

    +1 indeed you are correct, i think we must rename it

    ''AliceWyman [[#post-11482|said]]'' <blockquote> "Private Browsing - Browse the web without saving information about the sites you visit" is the current title of this article. It's a very long title, 86 characters including spaces. When searching for this article in Google, for example, it appears in the search results as '''Private Browsing - Browse the web without saving ...''' with no indication that its about Firefox. I think the title could be shortened to something like, '''Private Browsing - Control what information Firefox saves''' The search summary doesn't mention Firefox either so that should be fixed, at the very least. </blockquote> +1 indeed you are correct, i think we must rename it
  3. AliceWyman 4808 posts
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    I renamed this article to: Private Browsing - Control what information Firefox saves

    I renamed this article to: Private Browsing - Control what information Firefox saves
  4. Tonnes 56 posts
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    +1 for renaming, but are we sure the new title covers the info?

    I mean, the part behind the - usually elaborates on the feature (i.e. "What is it or does it do?") as in the old title. Private Browsing - Control what information Firefox saves seems a bit like the article is about an action that's part of the Private Browsing feature only, like its last paragraph (Other ways to control what information Firefox saves), OR telling that private Browsing is controlling what info Firefox saves, which doesn't seem entirely true unless I don't see this right.

    That last paragraph doesn't suit very well either I think, as the first ones (or rather, the entire article) aren't about "ways to control what information Firefox saves" (i.e. the user isn't able to change the feature's behaviour), but how to use it instead, isn't it?. Just a thought…

    It would also be nice if article name changes would generate email notifications. Are there any plans or bugs filed for it?

    +1 for renaming, but are we sure the new title covers the info? I mean, the part behind the - usually elaborates on the feature (i.e. "What is it or does it do?") as in the old title. ''Private Browsing - Control what information Firefox saves'' seems a bit like the article is about an action that's part of the Private Browsing feature only, like its last paragraph (Other ways to control what information Firefox saves), OR telling that private Browsing ''is'' controlling what info Firefox saves, which doesn't seem entirely true unless I don't see this right. That last paragraph doesn't suit very well either I think, as the first ones (or rather, the entire article) aren't about "ways to control what information Firefox saves" (i.e. the user isn't able to change the feature's behaviour), but how to use it instead, isn't it?. Just a thought… It would also be nice if article name changes would generate email notifications. Are there any plans or bugs filed for it?
  5. AliceWyman 4808 posts
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    I guess I should have waited for other suggestions before renaming the article but we can still try to come up with a better title.

    Google names its Chrome help article Browse in private (incognito mode). Opera simply titles its article Private browsing.

    What about "Use Private Browsing mode in Firefox" and add more information about the feature in the search summary?

    Do you have any other suggestions?

    As for generating an email when an article is renamed, I think there was a bug filed quite awhile ago, about documenting all changes in articles (archiving, renaming, etc) so that it shows up in the article History. I don't remember if email notifications was part of it or not but you could always file a new bug.

    I guess I should have waited for other suggestions before renaming the article but we can still try to come up with a better title. Google names its Chrome help article [https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/95464?hl=en Browse in private (incognito mode)]. Opera simply titles its article [http://help.opera.com/Windows/12.10/en/private.html Private browsing]. What about "Use Private Browsing mode in Firefox" and add more information about the feature in the search summary? Do you have any other suggestions? As for generating an email when an article is renamed, I think there was a bug filed quite awhile ago, about documenting all changes in articles (archiving, renaming, etc) so that it shows up in the article History. I don't remember if email notifications was part of it or not but you could always file a new bug.
  6. AliceWyman 4808 posts
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    P.S. The original title of this article was simply Private Browsing. The article was renamed (as part of an IA project a few years ago) , to: Private Browsing - Browse the web without saving information about the sites you visit ... which is way too long for search engine result lisings.

    Here is a description in Wikipedia's Privacy mode article, in case it helps come up with a more concise title that also describes the feature.

    Privacy mode or "private browsing" or "incognito mode", is a privacy feature in some web browsers to disable browsing history and the web cache. This allows a person to browse the Web without storing local data that could be retrieved at a later date. Privacy mode will also disable the storage of data in cookies and Flash cookies. <snip>
    
    P.S. The original title of this article was simply [https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/Private-Browsing?redirect=no Private Browsing]. The article was renamed (as part of an [/forums/contributors/708250 IA project] a few years ago) , to: [https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/private-browsing-browse-web-without-saving-info?redirect=no Private Browsing - Browse the web without saving information about the sites you visit] ... which is way too long for search engine result lisings. Here is a description in Wikipedia's [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privacy_mode Privacy mode] article, in case it helps come up with a more concise title that also describes the feature. Privacy mode or "private browsing" or "incognito mode", is a privacy feature in some web browsers to disable browsing history and the web cache. This allows a person to browse the Web without storing local data that could be retrieved at a later date. Privacy mode will also disable the storage of data in cookies and Flash cookies. <snip>
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  7. AliceWyman 4808 posts
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    As for generating an email when an article is renamed, I think there was a bug filed quite awhile ago, about documenting all changes in articles (archiving, renaming, etc) so that it shows up in the article History.

    Here's the bug: Bug 732668 - Article history should document changes of every kind

    Chris Ilias [:cilias] 2012-03-02 22:50:00 PST
    
    Right now, if I make a change to an article's slug, category, "Relevant to", topics, keywords, or mark it as obsolete, those changes are not documented anywhere. They should be documented in the article history.
    

    The "slug" covers the title. The bug doesn't mention e-mail notification, though. I would add a comment on that in the bug report or else file a new bug.

    <blockquote> As for generating an email when an article is renamed, I think there was a bug filed quite awhile ago, about documenting all changes in articles (archiving, renaming, etc) so that it shows up in the article History. </blockquote> Here's the bug: [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=732668 Bug 732668] - Article history should document changes of every kind Chris Ilias [:cilias] 2012-03-02 22:50:00 PST Right now, if I make a change to an article's slug, category, "Relevant to", topics, keywords, or mark it as obsolete, those changes are not documented anywhere. They should be documented in the article history. ----- The "slug" covers the title. The bug doesn't mention e-mail notification, though. I would add a comment on that in the bug report or else file a new bug.
  8. Joni 310 posts
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    Good idea. I've commented in that bug report to include email notifications.

    Good idea. I've commented in that bug report to include email notifications.
  9. Tonnes 56 posts
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    How about just Private Browsing - Browse without saving history? I think that covers all there is to know about it and might even fit a bit more (leaving out the ellipsis after its current title's search result that I see on desktop - i.e. "saves …").

    I never thought of titles as being vital to completely fit their search results but if so, there might be a few other titles to shorten. In other words, we can't expect all articles to meet that requirement, I guess. Therefore personally I find this less relevant, as long as the first part of a title clarifies its content to some extent, so a good choice of words may be important.

    Please keep in mind that English is a very compact language, i.e. chances are no other locale would make it to fit their titles just as well, which also goes for summaries. In general, other locales take up between 1.1 and 1.3 times the amount of English characters.

    Should the last paragraph (or its title) remain as it is?

    Thanks for the bug pointer.

    How about just '''Private Browsing - Browse without saving history'''? I think that covers all there is to know about it and might even fit a bit more (leaving out the ellipsis after its current title's search result that I see on desktop - i.e. "saves …"). I never thought of titles as being vital to completely fit their search results but if so, there might be a few other titles to shorten. In other words, we can't expect all articles to meet that requirement, I guess. Therefore personally I find this less relevant, as long as the first part of a title clarifies its content to some extent, so a good choice of words may be important. Please keep in mind that English is a very compact language, i.e. chances are no other locale would make it to fit their titles just as well, which also goes for summaries. In general, other locales take up between 1.1 and 1.3 times the amount of English characters. Should the last paragraph (or its title) remain as it is? Thanks for the bug pointer.
  10. AliceWyman 4808 posts
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    Tonnes said

    How about just Private Browsing - Browse without saving history? Snip> Should the last paragraph (or its title) remain as it is? Thanks for the bug pointer.

    You're welcome on the bug pointer.

    I'd rather include "Firefox" in the title so I'd prefer something like Private Browsing - Use Firefox without saving history or else keep the current title. I'll leave that up to Joni.

    The last paragraph seems OK as-is.

    ''Tonnes [[#post-11547|said]]'' <blockquote> How about just '''Private Browsing - Browse without saving history'''? Snip> Should the last paragraph (or its title) remain as it is? Thanks for the bug pointer. </blockquote> You're welcome on the bug pointer. I'd rather include "Firefox" in the title so I'd prefer something like '''Private Browsing - Use Firefox without saving history''' or else keep the current title. <s>I'll leave that up to Joni.</s> The last paragraph seems OK as-is.
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  11. Tonnes 56 posts
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    AliceWyman said

    The search summary doesn't mention Firefox either so that should be fixed, at the very least.

    as well as

    I'd rather include "Firefox" in the title so I'd prefer something like Private Browsing - Use Firefox without saving history

    Not that I want to disagree, but why should "Firefox" be included in titles and if so, what articles do and do not require it, you think?

    I left it out in my previous comment / suggestion, assuming you would agree on the summary to be used for that.

    ''AliceWyman [[#post-11482|said]]'' <blockquote>The search summary doesn't mention Firefox either so that should be fixed, at the very least. </blockquote> [[#post-11550|as well as]]'' <blockquote>I'd rather include "Firefox" in the title so I'd prefer something like '''Private Browsing - Use Firefox without saving history'''… </blockquote> Not that I want to disagree, but why should "Firefox" be included in titles and if so, what articles do and do not require it, you think? I left it out in my previous comment / suggestion, assuming you would agree on the summary to be used for that.
  12. AliceWyman 4808 posts
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    Tonnes, Here's what I wrote in another discussion for why I prefer including Firefox in article titles: /en-US/forums/knowledge-base-articles/711145?#post-64524


    Here's a screenshot of google search results showing SuMo KB article titles of different length:

    SEO-KBarticle-titles

    As you can see, the product portion of the title (e.g., "Thunderbird Help - Mozilla Support") is shown when the titles are very short, such as the "Using Multiple Profiles" Thunderbird article. For longer article titles, the product name gets dropped off.

    SuMo internal search is entirely different and only includes the article title and the search summary. See these search results: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/search?q=Profiles Whether the results are for "All Products" or for a specific product depends on where you start the search from.

    Even worse, when a contributor uses the forum "Insert a link" tool to find a KB article, only the title is shown, as in this screenshot:

    SuMoInsert-a-link

    You get the same list of articles in the Thunderbird forum as you get in the Firefox forum and it's easy to mistake a Thunderbird article (e.g., Using Multiple Profiles) for a Firefox article.

    The title really should include the product name, if at all possible.

    Tonnes, Here's what I wrote in another discussion for why I prefer including Firefox in article titles: [/en-US/forums/knowledge-base-articles/711145?#post-64524] ----- Here's a screenshot of google search results showing SuMo KB article titles of different length: ;[[Image:SEO-KBarticle-titles]] As you can see, the product portion of the title (e.g., "Thunderbird Help - Mozilla Support") is shown when the titles are very short, such as the "Using Multiple Profiles" Thunderbird article. For longer article titles, the product name gets dropped off. SuMo internal search is entirely different and only includes the article title and the search summary. See these search results: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/search?q=Profiles <sub>Whether the results are for "All Products" or for a specific product depends on where you start the search from.</sub> Even worse, when a contributor uses the forum "Insert a link" tool to find a KB article, only the title is shown, as in this screenshot: ;[[Image:SuMoInsert-a-link]] You get the same list of articles in the Thunderbird forum as you get in the Firefox forum and it's easy to mistake a Thunderbird article (e.g., Using Multiple Profiles) for a Firefox article. The title really should include the product name, if at all possible.
  13. Tonnes 56 posts
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    AliceWyman said

    I'd rather include "Firefox" in the title so I'd prefer something like Private Browsing - Use Firefox without saving history or else keep the current title. I'll leave that up to Joni.

    Indeed, I'd rather use that, as the current title suggests Privatye Browsing is controlling what information Firefox saves IMO.

    Also thanks for clarifying above.

    ''AliceWyman [[#post-11550|said]]'' <blockquote>I'd rather include "Firefox" in the title so I'd prefer something like '''Private Browsing - Use Firefox without saving history''' or else keep the current title. I'll leave that up to Joni. </blockquote> Indeed, I'd rather use that, as the current title suggests Privatye Browsing ''is'' controlling what information Firefox saves IMO. Also thanks for clarifying above.
  14. AliceWyman 4808 posts
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    Tonnes said

    AliceWyman said
    I'd rather include "Firefox" in the title so I'd prefer something like Private Browsing - Use Firefox without saving history or else keep the current title. I'll leave that up to Joni.

    Indeed, I'd rather use that, as the current title suggests Privatye Browsing is controlling what information Firefox saves IMO.

    Since Joni hasn't replied, I renamed the article title to Private Browsing - Use Firefox without saving history New slug: private-browsing-use-firefox-without-history

    ''Tonnes [[#post-11611|said]]'' <blockquote> ''AliceWyman [[#post-11550|said]]'' <blockquote>I'd rather include "Firefox" in the title so I'd prefer something like '''Private Browsing - Use Firefox without saving history''' or else keep the current title. I'll leave that up to Joni. </blockquote> Indeed, I'd rather use that, as the current title suggests Privatye Browsing ''is'' controlling what information Firefox saves IMO. </blockquote> <sub>Since Joni hasn't replied,</sub> I renamed the article title to '''Private Browsing - Use Firefox without saving history''' New slug: private-browsing-use-firefox-without-history
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