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[Fx91] Format: "Simplified" will be added to the new print UI under More settings (bug 1666247)

  1. Bug 1666247 Opened 2020-09-21 08:58 EDT Updated 2021-03-14 16:55 EDT Add the Simplify Page checkbox to the new print UI

    jscher2000 Comment 9 • 2021-02-24 15:34 EST Although I've been telling people for weeks on SUMO and Reddit to use Reader View for a simplified print layout, the margins and default line spacing are very different so there must be some difference in the code path or CSS files for Simplify Page compared with Reader View. I think users accustomed to using Simplify Page would appreciate having the classic tweaks applied.

    jscher2000 Comment 10 • 2021-03-14 12:57 EDT Any chance this will make it into Firefox 87? We probably are close to the cut-off.

    Blake Winton (:bwinton) (:☕️) Comment 11 • 2021-03-14 16:55 EDT Given the invasiveness and complications in this patch, we aren't going to uplift it to 87 (which is already in Beta). I'm still confident that it will land in Firefox 88, though, if that helps…

    [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1666247 Bug 1666247] Opened 2020-09-21 08:58 EDT Updated 2021-03-14 16:55 EDT Add the Simplify Page checkbox to the new print UI jscher2000 Comment 9 • 2021-02-24 15:34 EST ''Although I've been telling people for weeks on SUMO and Reddit to use Reader View for a simplified print layout, the margins and default line spacing are very different so there must be some difference in the code path or CSS files for Simplify Page compared with Reader View. I think users accustomed to using Simplify Page would appreciate having the classic tweaks applied.'' jscher2000 Comment 10 • 2021-03-14 12:57 EDT ''Any chance this will make it into Firefox 87? We probably are close to the cut-off.'' Blake Winton (:bwinton) (:☕️) Comment 11 • 2021-03-14 16:55 EDT ''Given the invasiveness and complications in this patch, we aren't going to uplift it to 87 (which is already in Beta). I'm still confident that it will land in Firefox 88, though, if that helps…
  2. Aaaaand it's patched in 91. We have a new Format Original/Simpified radio list.

    Aaaaand it's patched in 91. We have a new ''Format Original/Simpified'' radio list.
  3. Thanks, I checked in fx91 Nightly and you have to click the More settings drop down, then scroll down to Format and select the Simplified option.

    I updated the Need Info entry here and in the How to print web pages in Firefox article to [Fx91].

    I also added a comment to the related bug, which is still open: Bug 1666812 Opened 2020-09-23 11:05 EDT Updated 2021-07-09 08:42 EDT Update the "Firefox Simplify Page for clutter-free printing" for the new printing UI

    Thanks, I checked in fx91 Nightly and you have to click the More settings drop down, then scroll down to Format and select the Simplified option. I updated the Need Info entry here and in the [[How to print web pages in Firefox]] article to [Fx91]. I also added a comment to the related bug, which is still open: [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1666812 Bug 1666812] Opened 2020-09-23 11:05 EDT Updated 2021-07-09 08:42 EDT Update the "Firefox Simplify Page for clutter-free printing" for the new printing UI

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  4. Hi,

    The team asked to put this under a using Reader View heading. Once this is getting close to hitting release, we can update to add a Using the Simplified Format section. There will probably be a few releases before we can remove the reader view version.

    Hi, The team asked to put this under a ''using Reader View '' heading. Once this is getting close to hitting release, we can update to add a ''Using the Simplified Format ''section. There will probably be a few releases before we can remove the reader view version.
  5. Fabi, did the team ask you to change the article title, from "Print-friendly pages in Firefox for clutter-free printing" to the current title, "Print-friendly pages in Firefox for clutter-free printing using Reader View" ... ?

    In Fx91 you can either use Print Preview -> More settings -> Format:Simplified" OR you can choose Reader View BEFORE printing. I think a better article title, which also applies to previous versions, would be something similar to: Print simplified, clutter-free pages in Firefox (Related article: Firefox Reader View for clutter-free web pages)

    Anyway, here are some screenshots (Firefox 91 Beta on Windows 7)

    Fx91PrintPreview

    Fx91PrintPreview

    Here is what you see after selecting "More settings":

    Fx91PrintPreviewMoreSettings

    Fx91PrintPreviewMoreSettings

    (It looks like this view becomes the default after you select More settings, the next time you go to print.)

    I also noticed that, if you select Reader View BEFORE printing, the More settings options no longer include Format:Original/Simplified ... which we might want to add as a note in the article:

    Fx91PrintPreviewMore Settings-ReaderView

    Fx91PrintPreviewMoreSettings-ReaderView
    Fabi, did the team ask you to change the article title, from "Print-friendly pages in Firefox for clutter-free printing" to the current title, "Print-friendly pages in Firefox for clutter-free printing using Reader View" ... ? In Fx91 you can either use Print Preview -> More settings -> Format:Simplified" OR you can choose Reader View BEFORE printing. I think a better article title, which also applies to previous versions, would be something similar to: '''Print simplified, clutter-free pages in Firefox''' (Related article: [[Firefox Reader View for clutter-free web pages]]) Anyway, here are some screenshots (Firefox 91 Beta on Windows 7) '''Fx91PrintPreview''' ;[[Image:Fx91PrintPreview]] Here is what you see after selecting "More settings": '''Fx91PrintPreviewMoreSettings''' ;[[Image:Fx91PrintPreviewMoreSettings]] (It looks like this view becomes the default after you select More settings, the next time you go to print.) I also noticed that, if you select Reader View BEFORE printing, the More settings options no longer include Format:Original/Simplified ... which we might want to add as a note in the article: '''Fx91PrintPreviewMore Settings-ReaderView''' ;[[Image:Fx91PrintPreviewMoreSettings-ReaderView]]

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  6. Fabi said

    Hi, The team asked to put this under a using Reader View heading. Once this is getting close to hitting release, we can update to add a Using the Simplified Format section. There will probably be a few releases before we can remove the reader view version.

    Did the team also say to eventually remove the reader view version? Both methods work in Firefox 91 Beta. I think we should continue to describe both methods for Firefox 91+ ... especially since (as I wrote above) if you select Reader View BEFORE printing, the More settings options no longer include Format:Original/Simplified ... which we might want to add as a note in the article.

    Anyway, I posted a new comment in bug 1666812 with a link to this discussion.

    P.S. The How to print web pages in Firefox article has different content, depending on Firefox version, and will also need updating for fx91. It currently includes this note {for fx82} under Print a web page:

    {note}Note: If a web page is available in Reader View, you can print a simplified version of the page by clicking the Reader View icon reader mode icon 57 in the address bar, before printing. This will save paper and ink by removing clutter such as ads and background images. To learn more, see Print simplified, clutter-free pages in Firefox.{/note}

    ''Fabi [[#post-21775|said]]'' <blockquote> Hi, The team asked to put this under a ''using Reader View '' heading. Once this is getting close to hitting release, we can update to add a ''Using the Simplified Format ''section. There will probably be a few releases before we can remove the reader view version. </blockquote> Did the team also say to eventually ''remove the reader view version''? Both methods work in Firefox 91 Beta. I think we should continue to describe both methods for Firefox 91+ ... especially since (as I wrote above) '' if you select Reader View BEFORE printing, the More settings options no longer include Format:Original/Simplified ... which we might want to add as a note in the article.'' Anyway, I posted a new comment in [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1666812 bug 1666812] with a link to this discussion. P.S. The [[How to print web pages in Firefox]] article has different content, depending on Firefox version, and will also need updating for fx91. It currently includes this note {for fx82} under '''Print a web page''': {note}'''Note:''' If a web page is available in [[Firefox Reader View for clutter-free web pages|Reader View]], you can print a simplified version of the page by clicking the Reader View icon [[Image:reader mode icon 57|width=16]] in the address bar, before printing. This will save paper and ink by removing clutter such as ads and background images. To learn more, see [[Print-friendly pages in Firefox for clutter-free printing]].<!-- (This is the same as the ''Simplify Page'' option in the previous print interface.)-->{/note}

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  7. Hi Alice!

    Yes. On Monday, the team asked to add using Reader View to the title because the new feature was on Nightly. But, since it's in Beta now, I agree that it's safe to update this to show both printing options and a broader title.

    I have a pending review here. Feel free to edit/approve.

    Hi Alice! Yes. On Monday, the team asked to add ''using Reader View'' to the title because the new feature was on Nightly. But, since it's in Beta now, I agree that it's safe to update this to show both printing options and a broader title. I have a pending review here. Feel free to edit/approve.

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  8. Fabi, I made some edits for fx91 based on your revision with new images (it's pending review).

    Fabi, I made some edits for fx91 based on your revision with new images (it's pending review).
  9. <deleted> Here is what the Feb 03, 2021 version of this article said that applied to the old Print UI (for versions previous to fx82 when the new Print UI rollout began), under Using Simplify Page:

    1. Access the print functionality by clicking the menu button fx57menu and selecting {menu Print…}.
    2. In the Print Preview screen, look for the Simplify Page option in the top options bar. If this is available for the web page you're on, it will be black and clickable. Otherwise, it will be greyed out.
      simplify page hp

    <snip>

    Fabi, Is the Format "Simplified" option for fx91 always available, or is it missing if the page doesn't have a simplified version? Can you ask the team?

    <deleted> Here is what the [https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/print-simplified-clutter-free-pages-firefox/revision/214871 Feb 03, 2021 version] of this article said that applied to the old Print UI (for versions previous to fx82 when the new Print UI rollout began), under '''Using Simplify Page''': #Access the print functionality by clicking the menu button [[Image:fx57menu]] and selecting {menu Print…}. #In the ''Print Preview'' screen, look for the '''Simplify Page''' option in the top options bar. If this is available for the web page you're on, it will be black and clickable. Otherwise, it will be greyed out. #;[[Image:simplify page hp]] <snip> Fabi, Is the Format "Simplified" option for fx91 always available, or is it missing if the page doesn't have a simplified version? Can you ask the team?

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  10. Fabi, never mind about the above. I found a simple text-only test page: https://phet-dev.colorado.edu/html/build-an-atom/0.0.0-4/simple-text-only-test-page.html

    ... which has no Reader View or Simplified format options:

    Fx91PrintPreviewTextPage-NoFormatOptions

    Fx91PrintPreviewTextPage-NoFormatOptions

    I made a new revision to update the note for fx91+, as follows:

    {note}Note: {menu Format} settings are not available for pages already in a simplified format, such as text-only pages or when you have turned on Reader View for a page before printing.{/note}

    {note}Note: {menu Format} settings will be missing if a simplified version of the page is unavailable or if you have turned on Reader View for the page before printing.{/note}

    Fabi, can you review?

    Fabi, never mind about the above. I found a simple text-only test page: https://phet-dev.colorado.edu/html/build-an-atom/0.0.0-4/simple-text-only-test-page.html ... which has no Reader View or Simplified format options: Fx91PrintPreviewTextPage-NoFormatOptions ;[[Image:Fx91PrintPreviewTextPage-NoFormatOptions]] I made a new revision to update the note for fx91+, as follows: <s>{note}'''Note:''' {menu Format} settings are not available for pages already in a simplified format, such as text-only pages or when you have turned on [[Firefox Reader View for clutter-free web pages|Reader View]] for a page before printing.{/note}</s> {note}'''Note:''' {menu Format} settings will be missing if a simplified version of the page is unavailable or if you have turned on [[Firefox Reader View for clutter-free web pages|Reader View]] for the page before printing.{/note} Fabi, can you review?

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