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"Login Manager" Needs change entry ... also "Show passwords" button change reverted in Fx44, Fx42 "Remember login" prompt, Import win-only

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  1. AliceWyman 5123 posts
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    I was reviewing the last edit by Tonnes and saw this "Needs Change" entry that someone (Joni?) added: Needs Change: [42? -can't see this]"Login manager: Migration imports your passwords to Firefox from Windows Chrome and IE; import anytime from the Login Manager"

    I checked https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/42.0beta/releasenotes/ and found the following:


    Login Manager improvements:

    Improved heuristics to save usernames and passwords
    Edit and show all logins in line, Copy/Paste usernames/passwords from the Context menu
    Migration imports your passwords to Firefox from Windows Chrome and IE; import anytime from the Login Manager

    The release notes didn't include any reference links.

    I did find these bug fixes for fx42

    • Bug 707044 - Import login data from Google Chrome on Windows
    • Bug 1188478 - Make it easier and more discoverable to enter into passwords importer

    I also found this list of bugs containing the whiteboard entry pwmgr42 ...which includes:

    • Bug 1144856 - Change the doorhanger messages to mention "login" instead of "password"

    I'm guessing that Joni has more information?

    I was reviewing the last edit by Tonnes and saw this "Needs Change" entry that someone (Joni?) added: '''Needs Change:''' [42? -can't see this]"Login manager: Migration imports your passwords to Firefox from Windows Chrome and IE; import anytime from the Login Manager" I checked https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/42.0beta/releasenotes/ and found the following: ----- Login Manager improvements: :Improved heuristics to save usernames and passwords :Edit and show all logins in line, Copy/Paste usernames/passwords from the Context menu :Migration imports your passwords to Firefox from Windows Chrome and IE; import anytime from the Login Manager ----- The release notes didn't include any reference links. I did find these bug fixes for fx42 *[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=707044 Bug 707044] - Import login data from Google Chrome on Windows *[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1188478 Bug 1188478] - Make it easier and more discoverable to enter into passwords importer I also found [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?&resolution=---&resolution=FIXED&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&query_format=advanced&status_whiteboard=pwmgr42 this list of bugs] containing the whiteboard entry '''pwmgr42''' ...which includes: *[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1144856 Bug 1144856] - Change the doorhanger messages to mention "login" instead of "password" I'm guessing that Joni has more information?
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  2. Tonnes 63 posts
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    Slightly related: I added a revision that removed "other" (from "other browsers"?) and adds a linux entry. Could we please be careful in order to prevent missing text on other OSes?

    Also, I wonder if Linux doesn’t need a screenshot for that section and more important, I think all platforms use "Saved Logins" in 43+ so that may also need a change. Are we sure the curent 42+ entry for Mac only is correct?

    Edit: it seems the name of this article has been changed yesterday. Until bug 692502 gets fixed, it would be nice to have such changes mentioned in a document’s discussions. Or better maybe, how about doing so in a dedicated thread/subforum? After all, not everyone reads article discussions.

    Slightly related: I added a revision that removed "other" (from "other browsers"?) and adds a linux entry. Could we please be careful in order to prevent missing text on other OSes? Also, I wonder if Linux doesn’t need a screenshot for that section and more important, I think all platforms use "Saved Logins" in 43+ so that may also need a change. Are we sure the curent 42+ entry for Mac only is correct? Edit: it seems the name of this article has been changed yesterday. Until [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=692502 bug 692502] gets fixed, it would be nice to have such changes mentioned in a document’s discussions. Or better maybe, how about doing so in a dedicated thread/subforum? After all, not everyone reads article discussions.
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  3. Underpass 725 posts
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    Hello, the "Saved passwords" button, since Firefox 41, is called "Saved logins".

    Moreover, starting from version 44, the "Show passwords" button is no more present and to see a password you can double-click the masked password.

    Bye

    Hello, the "Saved passwords" button, since Firefox 41, is called "Saved logins". Moreover, starting from version 44, the "Show passwords" button is no more present and to see a password you can double-click the masked password. Bye
  4. Tonnes 63 posts
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    See previous reply. :) Apparently all platforms are using Saved Logins… since 43 (not 41). See bug 1199382 for reference.

    I made a few revisions to use the same wording for 43+ as well as the image, since there are no OS specific images involved, and added an initial change for the removed button in 44.

    The Saved Logins… change could need review for Linux, and the screenshot using the Show Passwords… button may need to be changed to exclude that for 44. And of course, anything could be improved.

    See previous reply. :) Apparently all platforms are using ''Saved Logins…'' since 43 (not 41). See [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1199382 bug 1199382] for reference. I made a few revisions to use the same wording for 43+ as well as the image, since there are no OS specific images involved, and added an initial change for the removed button in 44. The Saved Logins… change could need review for Linux, and the screenshot using the Show Passwords… button may need to be changed to exclude that for 44. And of course, anything could be improved.
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  5. AliceWyman 5123 posts
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    Tonnes said

    I made a few revisions to use the same wording for 43+ as well as the image, since there are no OS specific images involved, and added an initial change for the removed button in 44. The Saved Logins… change could need review for Linux, and the screenshot using the Show Passwords… button may need to be changed to exclude that for 44. And of course, anything could be improved.

    See: Bug 1208145 Revert bug 1121291 to bring back the button to toggle all passwords

    ''Tonnes [[#post-12994|said]]'' <blockquote> I made a few revisions to use the same wording for 43+ as well as the image, since there are no OS specific images involved, and added an initial change for the removed button in 44. The Saved Logins… change could need review for Linux, and the screenshot using the Show Passwords… button may need to be changed to exclude that for 44. And of course, anything could be improved. </blockquote> See: [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1208145 Bug 1208145] Revert bug 1121291 to bring back the button to toggle all passwords
  6. Tonnes 63 posts
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    Alice, I understand that bug will lead to restoring the Show passwords button in 44, so that would need another article change? Also note that currently both pre and post 43 screenshots (line 30) do not show the Show passwords button.

    Alice, I understand that bug will lead to restoring the Show passwords button in 44, so that would need another article change? Also note that currently both pre and post 43 screenshots (line 30) do not show the Show passwords button.
  7. AliceWyman 5123 posts
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    Tonnes said

    Alice, I understand that bug will lead to restoring the Show passwords button in 44, so that would need another article change? Also note that currently both pre and post 43 screenshots (line 30) do not show the Show passwords button.

    "Show passwords" will be reverted in the next Firefox 44 Beta according to the latest bugzilla comment (I was under the misconception that it wouldn't be reverted until Firefox 45): https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1208145


    Bogdan Maris, QA [:bogdan_maris] 2016-01-15 06:53:04 PST

    We tested using Firefox 44 beta 9 l10n builds (en, ar, de, es-ES, fr, it, ja, ko, pl, pt-PT, ru, tr, vi, zh-CN) across platforms (Windows 7 64-bit, Mac OS X 10.10.5 and Ubuntu 14.04 64-bit) and the show/hide passwords button works as expected and it's localized on all builds we tested.

    Flags: qe-verify+ Flags: needinfo?(andrei.vaida@softvision.ro) status-firefox44: fixed → verified


    We have to go back and change the article to remove the edits related to the "Show Passwords" UI for Firefox 44.

    ''Tonnes [[#post-13105|said]]'' <blockquote> Alice, I understand that bug will lead to restoring the Show passwords button in 44, so that would need another article change? Also note that currently both pre and post 43 screenshots (line 30) do not show the Show passwords button. </blockquote> "Show passwords" will be reverted in the next Firefox 44 Beta according to the latest bugzilla comment (I was under the misconception that it wouldn't be reverted until Firefox 45): https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1208145 ----- Bogdan Maris, QA [:bogdan_maris] 2016-01-15 06:53:04 PST We tested using Firefox 44 beta 9 l10n builds (en, ar, de, es-ES, fr, it, ja, ko, pl, pt-PT, ru, tr, vi, zh-CN) across platforms (Windows 7 64-bit, Mac OS X 10.10.5 and Ubuntu 14.04 64-bit) and the show/hide passwords button works as expected and it's localized on all builds we tested. Flags: qe-verify+ Flags: needinfo?(andrei.vaida@softvision.ro) status-firefox44: fixed → verified ----- We have to go back and change the article to remove the edits related to the "Show Passwords" UI for Firefox 44.
  8. AliceWyman 5123 posts
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    AliceWyman said

    We have to go back and change the article to remove the edits related to the "Show Passwords" UI for Firefox 44.

    I seee philipp already has a revision pending.

    ''AliceWyman [[#post-13106|said]]'' <blockquote> We have to go back and change the article to remove the edits related to the "Show Passwords" UI for Firefox 44. </blockquote> I seee philipp already has a revision pending.
  9. Tonnes 63 posts
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    Yes, we talked this over. Could anyone take care of a proper screenshot?

    Yes, we talked this over. Could anyone take care of a proper screenshot?
  10. AliceWyman 5123 posts
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    Tonnes said

    Could anyone take care of a proper screenshot?

    The screenshots in the article seem OK to me. Can you be more specific?

    ''Tonnes [[#post-13108|said]]'' <blockquote>Could anyone take care of a proper screenshot? </blockquote> The screenshots in the article seem OK to me. Can you be more specific?
  11. Tonnes 63 posts
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    Sorry, the Show passwords button I referred to above is there - it’s the Import button that’s missing in both screenshots in current line 30.

    Sorry, the Show passwords button I referred to above is there - it’s the Import button that’s missing in both screenshots in current line 30.
  12. AliceWyman 5123 posts
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    Tonnes said

    Sorry, the Show passwords button I referred to above is there - it’s the Import button that’s missing in both screenshots in current line 30.

    Yes, I see that Import button now that you mention it. I uploaded this one ... OK to replace for fx43 ... or can you come up with something better? https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/gallery/image/24273 fx43SavedLogins

    I also see a different prompt to remember a new password in Firefox so I added "Image:fx43-RememberLogin" to the article for fx43 in a new revision:

    fx43-RememberLogin
    ''Tonnes [[#post-13110|said]]'' <blockquote> Sorry, the Show passwords button I referred to above is there - it’s the Import button that’s missing in both screenshots in current line 30. </blockquote> Yes, I see that Import button now that you mention it. I uploaded this one ... OK to replace for fx43 ... or can you come up with something better? https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/gallery/image/24273 fx43SavedLogins I also see a different prompt to remember a new password in Firefox so I added "Image:fx43-RememberLogin" to the article for fx43 in a new revision: ;[[Image:fx43-RememberLogin]]
  13. AliceWyman 5123 posts
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    I made a new revision to add the above screenshot for fx43 and added this "needs change" entry: [Fx43] Review for other needed "Save Password" UI changes. Also need new screenshot for fx43 for SavedLogins UI with Import button

    I made a new revision to add the above screenshot for fx43 and added this "needs change" entry: [Fx43] Review for other needed "Save Password" UI changes. Also need new screenshot for fx43 for SavedLogins UI with Import button
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  14. Tonnes 63 posts
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    Sorry, I got no email for this thread update yesterday for some reason.

    The screenshot on https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/gal.../24273 is OK, though as you see it’s not similar to the ones currently used which include both screens, Not sure if that’s a requirement though, but as it follows "Click Saved Logins… and the Password Manager will open" it may be clearer, but I’ll leave that you. ;).

    The other screenshot displayed above (good catch) looks OK to me. However I wondered, did you deliberately only add {for not fx43} for "Password" and not a {for 43} for "Login" in that change? Also note that there is another occurrence of "passwords" in the same line that could use a {for} to include "logins".

    Sorry, I got no email for this thread update yesterday for some reason. The screenshot on [https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/gallery/image/24273] is OK, though as you see it’s not similar to the ones currently used which include both screens, Not sure if that’s a requirement though, but as it follows "Click Saved Logins… and the Password Manager will open" it may be clearer, but I’ll leave that you. ;). The other screenshot displayed above (good catch) looks OK to me. However I wondered, did you deliberately only add {for not fx43} for "Password" and not a {for 43} for "Login" in that change? Also note that there is another occurrence of "passwords" in the same line that ''could'' use a {for} to include "logins".
  15. AliceWyman 5123 posts
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    Tonnes said

    Sorry, I got no email for this thread update yesterday for some reason. The screenshot on https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/gal.../24273 is OK, though as you see it’s not similar to the ones currently used which include both screens, Not sure if that’s a requirement though, but as it follows "Click Saved Logins… and the Password Manager will open" it may be clearer, but I’ll leave that you. ;). The other screenshot displayed above (good catch) looks OK to me. However I wondered, did you deliberately only add {for not fx43} for "Password" and not a {for 43} for "Login" in that change? Also note that there is another occurrence of "passwords" in the same line that could use a {for} to include "logins".

    I didn't get an email for the above post you made to this thread.

    Before reading it I made a new revision based on the Remember prompt changes for fx43 (I ended up making separate {for fx43} and {for not fx43} sections). Could you look it over?

    I didn't update the screenshot for the SavedLogins UI with the Import button. I'll try working on that (maybe paste a resized image into the old screenshot?)

    (Forgot to mention) Also, I did deliberately only add {for not fx43} for "Password" and not a {for 43} for "Login" in my previous change. I was thinking "Remember" as the name of the button and used it as the name of the prompt. We can always change that.

    ''Tonnes [[#post-13114|said]]'' <blockquote> Sorry, I got no email for this thread update yesterday for some reason. The screenshot on [https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/gallery/image/24273] is OK, though as you see it’s not similar to the ones currently used which include both screens, Not sure if that’s a requirement though, but as it follows "Click Saved Logins… and the Password Manager will open" it may be clearer, but I’ll leave that you. ;). The other screenshot displayed above (good catch) looks OK to me. However I wondered, did you deliberately only add {for not fx43} for "Password" and not a {for 43} for "Login" in that change? Also note that there is another occurrence of "passwords" in the same line that ''could'' use a {for} to include "logins". </blockquote> I didn't get an email for the above post you made to this thread. Before reading it I made a new revision based on the Remember prompt changes for fx43 (I ended up making separate {for fx43} and {for not fx43} sections). Could you look it over? I didn't update the screenshot for the SavedLogins UI with the Import button. I'll try working on that (maybe paste a resized image into the old screenshot?) <sub>(Forgot to mention)</sub> Also, I did deliberately only add {for not fx43} for "Password" and not a {for 43} for "Login" in my previous change. I was thinking "Remember" as the name of the button and used it as the name of the prompt. We can always change that.
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  16. AliceWyman 5123 posts
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    P.S. When I was testing out the new "Remember" login prompt, I didn't see a "Never Remember for this site" drop-down option so I removed To tell Firefox to never remember usernames and passwords for the current website from the {for fx43} section.

    P.S. <s>When I was testing out the new "Remember" login prompt, I didn't see a "Never Remember for this site" drop-down option so I removed '''To tell Firefox to never remember usernames and passwords for the current website''' from the {for fx43} section.</s>
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  17. AliceWyman 5123 posts
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    Scratch that. I didn't test it properly. The "Never Remember Password for this Site" drop-down option appears the first time you enter a password for a particular username:

    fx42RememberLogin-dropdown

    I also installed Firefox 42 for testing and the new "Remember login" prompt appeared in Firefox 42. I deferred my last revision and made a new one.

    By the way, the Security panel still shows Saved Passwords in Firefox 42. It doesn't show "Saved Logins" until Firefox 43.

    Scratch that. I didn't test it properly. The "Never Remember Password for this Site" drop-down option appears the first time you enter a password for a particular username: ;[[Image:fx42RememberLogin-dropdown]] I also installed Firefox 42 for testing and the new "Remember login" prompt appeared in Firefox 42. I deferred my last revision and made a new one. By the way, the [[Security and passwords settings|Security panel]] still shows '''Saved Passwords''' in Firefox 42. It doesn't show "Saved Logins" until Firefox 43.
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  18. AliceWyman 5123 posts
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    I resized my fx43SavedLogins screenshot and pasted it into the old image currently being shown. I purposely made it a bit larger than the old one I was pasting over, since anything smaller would be too hard to see.

    I made a new revision to add this composite image for the new SavedLoginsUI in Firefox 43: Image: fx43SavedLoginsUI

    fx43SavedLoginsUI

    My new revision is pending review (Tonnes?)

    I resized my [https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/gallery/image/24273 fx43SavedLogins] screenshot and pasted it into the [https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/gallery/image/23432 old image] currently being shown. I purposely made it a bit larger than the old one I was pasting over, since anything smaller would be too hard to see. I made a new revision to add this composite image for the new SavedLoginsUI in Firefox 43: Image: fx43SavedLoginsUI ;[[Image: fx43SavedLoginsUI]] My new revision is pending review (Tonnes?)
  19. Tonnes 63 posts
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    Thank you very much, it looks good to me. I added a new revision however with some nits to add "a website", clarify some "it"s and a change a "with"->"in" instance, and use new article titles for links. Could you have a look?

    Thank you very much, it looks good to me. I added a new revision however with some nits to add "a website", clarify some "it"s and a change a "with"->"in" instance, and use new article titles for links. Could you have a look?
  20. AliceWyman 5123 posts
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    One more change is needed. In Firefox 42 on Windows 7, the Saved Passwords UI also has an Import button, as shown in this screenshot I just uploaded. I made another composite image, for =fx42 fx42SavedPasswordsUI using the saved passwords 38 image with the Mac Preferences tab removed:

    fx42SavedPasswordsUI
    One more change is needed. In Firefox 42 on Windows 7, the Saved Passwords UI also has an Import button, as shown in [https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/gallery/image/24306 this screenshot I just uploaded]. I made another composite image, for =fx42 '''fx42SavedPasswordsUI''' using the saved passwords 38 image with the Mac Preferences tab removed: ;[[Image:fx42SavedPasswordsUI]]
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