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The crash reporter does not warn you about crashes

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  1. Chris Ilias 2068 posts
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    Tonnes and I got into a disagreement about this. This article search summary states "...is a dialog box that warns you when Firefox crashes..." then starts with "The Mozilla Crash Reporter is a dialog box that warns you when Firefox closed unexpectedly"

    Those statements are incorrect. A google search of the definition of "warning" yields:

    • a statement or event that indicates a possible or impending danger, problem, or other unpleasant situation.
    • cautionary advice
    • advance notice of something

    You're not being warned of anything. The crash has already occurred.

    Tonnes wanted to replicate that wording for the Thunderbird version of this article, and I rejected the edit. He disagrees that the wording is incorrect, so I am starting this thread to see what everyone thinks.

    If we can get better wording, then we can fix this article, then copy the wording in the Thunderbird version.

    Tonnes and I got into a disagreement about this. This article search summary states "''...is a dialog box that warns you when Firefox crashes...''" then starts with "''The Mozilla Crash Reporter is a dialog box that warns you when Firefox closed unexpectedly''" Those statements are incorrect. A google search of the definition of "warning" yields: * a statement or event that indicates a possible or impending danger, problem, or other unpleasant situation. * cautionary advice * advance notice of something You're not being warned of anything. The crash has already occurred. Tonnes wanted to replicate that wording for the Thunderbird version of this article, and I rejected the edit. He disagrees that the wording is incorrect, so I am starting this thread to see what everyone thinks. If we can get better wording, then we can fix this article, then copy the wording in the Thunderbird version.
  2. AliceWyman 5146 posts
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    I have a revision pending to the article summary and intro.

    I have a revision pending to the article summary and intro.
  3. ideato 567 posts
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    Chris Ilias said

    This article search summary states "...is a dialog box that warns you when Firefox crashes..." then starts with "The Mozilla Crash Reporter is a dialog box that warns you when Firefox closed unexpectedly" Those statements are incorrect You're not being warned of anything. The crash has already occurred.

    Agree

    AliceWyman said

    I have a revision pending to the article summary and intro.

    I like it.

    (from the revision)...The Mozilla Crash Reporter tells you when Firefox closes unexpectedly....

    +1

    ''Chris Ilias [[#post-13740|said]]'' <blockquote> This article search summary states "''...is a dialog box that warns you when Firefox crashes...''" then starts with "''The Mozilla Crash Reporter is a dialog box that warns you when Firefox closed unexpectedly''" Those statements are incorrect You're not being warned of anything. The crash has already occurred. </blockquote> Agree ''AliceWyman [[#post-13744|said]]'' <blockquote> I have a revision pending to the article summary and intro. </blockquote> I like it. (from the revision)...The Mozilla Crash Reporter '''tells''' you when Firefox closes unexpectedly.... +1
  4. AliceWyman 5146 posts
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    ideato said

    Chris Ilias said
    This article search summary states "...is a dialog box that warns you when Firefox crashes..." then starts with "The Mozilla Crash Reporter is a dialog box that warns you when Firefox closed unexpectedly" Those statements are incorrect You're not being warned of anything. The crash has already occurred.

    Agree

    AliceWyman said

    I have a revision pending to the article summary and intro.

    I like it.

    (from the revision)...The Mozilla Crash Reporter tells you when Firefox closes unexpectedly....

    +1

    Hmm ... I think it could be further improved. I made another edit. (my new revision to the summary) The Mozilla Crash Reporter dialog box appears when Firefox crashes and lets you send a crash report. Learn how it works and how to access your crash reports.

    (my new revision to the intro) The Mozilla Crash Reporter dialog box appears when Firefox closes unexpectedly and lets you submit a crash report to developers, to make future Firefox versions crash less often. <snip>

    ''ideato [[#post-13746|said]]'' <blockquote> ''Chris Ilias [[#post-13740|said]]'' <blockquote> This article search summary states "''...is a dialog box that warns you when Firefox crashes...''" then starts with "''The Mozilla Crash Reporter is a dialog box that warns you when Firefox closed unexpectedly''" Those statements are incorrect You're not being warned of anything. The crash has already occurred. </blockquote> Agree ''AliceWyman [[#post-13744|said]]'' <blockquote> I have a revision pending to the article summary and intro. </blockquote> I like it. (from the revision)...The Mozilla Crash Reporter '''tells''' you when Firefox closes unexpectedly.... +1 </blockquote> Hmm ... I think it could be further improved. I made another edit. (my new revision to the summary) The Mozilla Crash Reporter dialog box appears when Firefox crashes and lets you send a crash report. Learn how it works and how to access your crash reports. (my new revision to the intro) The Mozilla Crash Reporter dialog box appears when Firefox closes unexpectedly and lets you submit a crash report to developers, to make future Firefox versions crash less often. <snip>
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  5. Tonnes 63 posts
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    Chris Ilias said

    Tonnes wanted to replicate that wording for the Thunderbird version of this article, and I rejected the edit. He disagrees that the wording is incorrect, so I am starting this thread to see what everyone thinks.

    For clarity: I didn’t disagree about the wording being correct or not, but just duplicated the FF version’s text since it was better than and inconsistent with the text the TB version used.

    I did a small change for website -> web page since this is about pages responsible for the crash, and a browser is used for browsing web pages, not entire sites.

    How about using "if Firefox crashes" instead of "if you crash" consistently? The latter may be a common expression for English, but might be considered slang.

    Last but not least, please try to keep search result summaires below 140 characters. One reason is that some search engine or function (?) only displays the first 140 characters, the other one is that lots of locales (or the average locale) use about 1.3 times English characters, so they easily exceed 160. It may be too much to ask to keep English below 110, but using the full 160 is simply to much.

    ''Chris Ilias [[#post-13740|said]]'' <blockquote>Tonnes wanted to replicate that wording for the Thunderbird version of this article, and I rejected the edit. He disagrees that the wording is incorrect, so I am starting this thread to see what everyone thinks. </blockquote> For clarity: I didn’t disagree about the wording being correct or not, but just duplicated the FF version’s text since it was better than and inconsistent with the text the TB version used. I did a small change for website -> web page since this is about pages responsible for the crash, and a browser is used for browsing web pages, not entire sites. How about using "if Firefox crashes" instead of "if you crash" consistently? The latter may be a common expression for English, but might be considered slang. Last but not least, please try to keep search result summaires below 140 characters. One reason is that some search engine or function (?) only displays the first 140 characters, the other one is that lots of locales (or the average locale) use about 1.3 times English characters, so they easily exceed 160. It may be too much to ask to keep English below 110, but using the full 160 is simply to much.
  6. Chris Ilias 2068 posts
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    Tonnes said

    How about using "if Firefox crashes" instead of "if you crash" consistently? The latter may be a common expression for English, but might be considered slang.

    Good catch! Yes, definitely.

    ''Tonnes [[#post-13878|said]]'' <blockquote> How about using "if Firefox crashes" instead of "if you crash" consistently? The latter may be a common expression for English, but might be considered slang. </blockquote> Good catch! Yes, definitely.