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We need _TOC_ in the beggining of the article ?

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  1. ideato 567 posts
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    In the beggining of the article, after the "Keyboard Shortcuts TB" for :

    About keyboard shortcuts • Shortcut keys and operating systems • Customizing keyboard shortcuts List of keyboard shortcuts in Thunderbird and Lightning • See also

    maybe we need a _TOC_ for better view ?


    thanks

    In the beggining of the article, after the "Keyboard Shortcuts TB" for : About keyboard shortcuts • Shortcut keys and operating systems • Customizing keyboard shortcuts List of keyboard shortcuts in Thunderbird and Lightning • See also maybe we need a _TOC_ for better view ? thanks
  2. ideato 567 posts
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    ideato said

    In the beggining of the article, after the "Keyboard Shortcuts TB" for : About keyboard shortcuts • Shortcut keys and operating systems • Customizing keyboard shortcuts List of keyboard shortcuts in Thunderbird and Lightning • See also maybe we need a _TOC_ for better view ? thanks

    I made the above review

    ''ideato [[#post-9319|said]]'' <blockquote> In the beggining of the article, after the "Keyboard Shortcuts TB" for : About keyboard shortcuts • Shortcut keys and operating systems • Customizing keyboard shortcuts List of keyboard shortcuts in Thunderbird and Lightning • See also maybe we need a _TOC_ for better view ? thanks </blockquote> I made the above review
  3. John99 3665 posts
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    ideato said

    In the beggining of the article, after the "Keyboard Shortcuts TB" for :
    About keyboard shortcuts • Shortcut keys and operating systems • Customizing keyboard shortcuts List of keyboard shortcuts in Thunderbird and Lightning • See also
    maybe we need a _TOC_ for better view ? thanks

    Hi Xros,
    Yes I think that is an improvement.

    As you say it is easier to identify and find the content that way. I think it should also aid anyone wishing to link directly to any part of the document such as a single shortcut.

    Showfor - Other OS
    It does mention different OS but is not written for those OS maybe we should also improve that. So write each shortcut for each os much in the way that we do for our Firefox article Keyboard shortcuts - Perform common Firefox tasks quickly

    Titles & SEO
    Thinking of the article titles. The Firefox articles were renamed to help with SEO. It may be worth doing similar with Thunderbird articles if and when they get edited. Having TB or Thunderbird in the title may help us in the forum so that the wrong articles do not get linked. The obvious choice of title for this article would be Keyboard shortcuts - Perform common Thunderbird tasks quickly

    Cross Linking to Firefox Articles
    Not every Firefox user will have Thunderbird.
    Although note on the popular Ubuntu Linux distro Firefox is the default Browser and Thunderbird is included in the install by default. I do not suggest cross linking Fx articles to TB articles. That is not needed, but in my opinion it may be worth adding a cross-link to Firefox articles where there is a similar article as is the case with Keyboard Shortcuts.

    I will bring this up in the Contribs forum. I think we need to ensure Roland gives input on this, or we could start making many changes to articles before Roland realises what is underway

    ''ideato [[#post-9319|said]]'' <blockquote> In the beggining of the article, after the "Keyboard Shortcuts TB" for : <br /> About keyboard shortcuts • Shortcut keys and operating systems • Customizing keyboard shortcuts List of keyboard shortcuts in Thunderbird and Lightning • See also <br /> maybe we need a _TOC_ for better view ? thanks </blockquote> Hi Xros, <br /> Yes I think that is an improvement. As you say it is easier to identify and find the content that way. I think it should also aid anyone wishing to link directly to any part of the document such as a single shortcut. <u>Showfor - Other OS</u><br /> It does mention different OS but is not written for those OS maybe we should also improve that. So write each shortcut for each os much in the way that we do for our Firefox article [[Keyboard shortcuts - Perform common Firefox tasks quickly]] <u>Titles & SEO </u><br /> Thinking of the article titles. The Firefox articles were renamed to help with SEO. It may be worth doing similar with Thunderbird articles if and when they get edited. Having TB or Thunderbird in the title may help us in the forum so that the wrong articles do not get linked. The obvious choice of title for this article would be ''Keyboard shortcuts - Perform common Thunderbird tasks quickly'' <u>Cross Linking to Firefox Articles</u><br /> Not every Firefox user will have Thunderbird. <br />Although note on the popular Ubuntu Linux distro Firefox is the default Browser and Thunderbird is included in the install by default. I do not suggest cross linking Fx articles to TB articles. That is not needed, but in my opinion it may be worth adding a cross-link to Firefox articles where there is a similar article as is the case with Keyboard Shortcuts. I will bring this up in the Contribs forum. I think we need to ensure Roland gives input on this, or we could start making many changes to articles before Roland realises what is underway * I will copy this to <br /> ''Thunderbird Migration February 2014. Finally :-) !'' [https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/forums/contributors/709977]
  4. ojaswee 0 posts
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    By default, the TOC automatically numbers the sections. The section headings themselves aren't numbered. This behavior of the table of contents can be customised in several ways:

    It is possible to suppress the auto-generated section numbers in the TOC, if the proper class exists locally at MediaWiki:Common.css, defined as .tocnumber { display: none; }. To do this selectively, a wrapper element can be placed around the TOC, as in
    on the page, and .noautonum .tocnumber { display: none; } at MediaWiki:Common.css.

    There is a user preference to also auto-number the section headings, at Preferences > Appearance > Advanced options > Auto-number headings. This can be set globally for the whole wiki by defining $wgDefaultUserOptions['numberheadings'] = 1 in LocalSettings.php This setting can be overridden individually by users, by changing their preferences as described above, or by setting .mw-headline-number { display: none; } in their user style page. Administrators who lack server access can also override the setting for all users, if it is activated as mentioned above. This is done by using the same CSS code in the site's global common.css file. Internationalization[edit | edit source] Different languages have different ways of expressing TOCs and how its (sub)section numbering is done. Also, the different style guides of many languages differ in what style of TOC and TOC (sub)section numbering scheme they recommend for writers to use. The different w:style guides of each language sometimes recommend different typographic conventions to follow. It's important to note that most languages don't even have any style guide for writing in that language (and many languages don't have a written form entirely), so people usually use the most common style based on existing written convention (not prescribed, but simply 'standard' due to popular usage), which makes the written use of many languages have a sort of 'fluid' punctuation, spelling/orthography and even [personal changes of the very] grammar [of that particular language]. w:Westernization has influenced alphabet and non-alphabet writing systems, with many languages simply copying or being artificially converted to European-style typographic and w:punctuational conventions.

    By default, the TOC automatically numbers the sections. The section headings themselves aren't numbered. This behavior of the table of contents can be customised in several ways: It is possible to suppress the auto-generated section numbers in the TOC, if the proper class exists locally at MediaWiki:Common.css, defined as .tocnumber { display: none; }. To do this selectively, a wrapper element can be placed around the TOC, as in <div class="noautonum">__TOC__</div> on the page, and .noautonum .tocnumber { display: none; } at MediaWiki:Common.css. There is a user preference to also auto-number the section headings, at Preferences > Appearance > Advanced options > Auto-number headings. This can be set globally for the whole wiki by defining $wgDefaultUserOptions['numberheadings'] = 1 in LocalSettings.php This setting can be overridden individually by users, by changing their preferences as described above, or by setting .mw-headline-number { display: none; } in their user style page. Administrators who lack server access can also override the setting for all users, if it is activated as mentioned above. This is done by using the same CSS code in the site's global common.css file. Internationalization[edit | edit source] Different languages have different ways of expressing TOCs and how its (sub)section numbering is done. Also, the different style guides of many languages differ in what style of TOC and TOC (sub)section numbering scheme they recommend for writers to use. The different w:style guides of each language sometimes recommend different typographic conventions to follow. It's important to note that most languages don't even have any style guide for writing in that language (and many languages don't have a written form entirely), so people usually use the most common style based on existing written convention (not prescribed, but simply 'standard' due to popular usage), which makes the written use of many languages have a sort of 'fluid' punctuation, spelling/orthography and even [personal changes of the very] grammar [of that particular language]. w:Westernization has influenced alphabet and non-alphabet writing systems, with many languages simply copying or being artificially converted to European-style typographic and w:punctuational conventions.
  5. Roland Tanglao 310 posts
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    Hi Xros and John99 and ideato:

    Thank-you for taking the time to look at this article in detail!

    I haven't had time to look at this in detail because we are finishing up the last details of Thunderbird migration but I think in general your suggestions are great!

    Please do not make these edits until I have had time to look at this in detail and we have finished migration.

    Migration should be finished end of this week and I should have time to look at your suggestions in detail next Monday. Please do not change the article until I post my detailed reply to your suggestions. I should be able to post a detailed reply on March 3, 2014.

    Thanks for your patience with this small delay!

    ...Roland

    John99 said

    ideato said
    In the beggining of the article, after the "Keyboard Shortcuts TB" for :
    About keyboard shortcuts • Shortcut keys and operating systems • Customizing keyboard shortcuts List of keyboard shortcuts in Thunderbird and Lightning • See also
    maybe we need a _TOC_ for better view ? thanks

    Hi Xros,
    Yes I think that is an improvement.

    As you say it is easier to identify and find the content that way. I think it should also aid anyone wishing to link directly to any part of the document such as a single shortcut.

    Showfor - Other OS
    It does mention different OS but is not written for those OS maybe we should also improve that. So write each shortcut for each os much in the way that we do for our Firefox article Keyboard shortcuts - Perform common Firefox tasks quickly

    Titles & SEO
    Thinking of the article titles. The Firefox articles were renamed to help with SEO. It may be worth doing similar with Thunderbird articles if and when they get edited. Having TB or Thunderbird in the title may help us in the forum so that the wrong articles do not get linked. The obvious choice of title for this article would be Keyboard shortcuts - Perform common Thunderbird tasks quickly

    Cross Linking to Firefox Articles
    Not every Firefox user will have Thunderbird.
    Although note on the popular Ubuntu Linux distro Firefox is the default Browser and Thunderbird is included in the install by default. I do not suggest cross linking Fx articles to TB articles. That is not needed, but in my opinion it may be worth adding a cross-link to Firefox articles where there is a similar article as is the case with Keyboard Shortcuts.

    I will bring this up in the Contribs forum. I think we need to ensure Roland gives input on this, or we could start making many changes to articles before Roland realises what is underway

    John99 said

    ideato said
    In the beggining of the article, after the "Keyboard Shortcuts TB" for :
    About keyboard shortcuts • Shortcut keys and operating systems • Customizing keyboard shortcuts List of keyboard shortcuts in Thunderbird and Lightning • See also
    maybe we need a _TOC_ for better view ? thanks

    Hi Xros,
    Yes I think that is an improvement.

    As you say it is easier to identify and find the content that way. I think it should also aid anyone wishing to link directly to any part of the document such as a single shortcut.

    Showfor - Other OS
    It does mention different OS but is not written for those OS maybe we should also improve that. So write each shortcut for each os much in the way that we do for our Firefox article Keyboard shortcuts - Perform common Firefox tasks quickly

    Titles & SEO
    Thinking of the article titles. The Firefox articles were renamed to help with SEO. It may be worth doing similar with Thunderbird articles if and when they get edited. Having TB or Thunderbird in the title may help us in the forum so that the wrong articles do not get linked. The obvious choice of title for this article would be Keyboard shortcuts - Perform common Thunderbird tasks quickly

    Cross Linking to Firefox Articles
    Not every Firefox user will have Thunderbird.
    Although note on the popular Ubuntu Linux distro Firefox is the default Browser and Thunderbird is included in the install by default. I do not suggest cross linking Fx articles to TB articles. That is not needed, but in my opinion it may be worth adding a cross-link to Firefox articles where there is a similar article as is the case with Keyboard Shortcuts.

    I will bring this up in the Contribs forum. I think we need to ensure Roland gives input on this, or we could start making many changes to articles before Roland realises what is underway

    Hi Xros and John99 and ideato: Thank-you for taking the time to look at this article in detail! I haven't had time to look at this in detail because we are finishing up the last details of Thunderbird migration but I think in general your suggestions are great! Please do not make these edits until I have had time to look at this in detail and we have finished migration. '''Migration should be finished end of this week and I should have time to look at your suggestions in detail next Monday. Please do not change the article until I post my detailed reply to your suggestions. I should be able to post a detailed reply on March 3, 2014.''' Thanks for your patience with this small delay! ...Roland ''John99 [[#post-9323|said]]'' <blockquote> ''ideato [[#post-9319|said]]'' <blockquote> In the beggining of the article, after the "Keyboard Shortcuts TB" for : <br /> About keyboard shortcuts • Shortcut keys and operating systems • Customizing keyboard shortcuts List of keyboard shortcuts in Thunderbird and Lightning • See also <br /> maybe we need a _TOC_ for better view ? thanks </blockquote> Hi Xros, <br /> Yes I think that is an improvement. As you say it is easier to identify and find the content that way. I think it should also aid anyone wishing to link directly to any part of the document such as a single shortcut. <u>Showfor - Other OS</u><br /> It does mention different OS but is not written for those OS maybe we should also improve that. So write each shortcut for each os much in the way that we do for our Firefox article [[Keyboard shortcuts - Perform common Firefox tasks quickly]] <u>Titles & SEO </u><br /> Thinking of the article titles. The Firefox articles were renamed to help with SEO. It may be worth doing similar with Thunderbird articles if and when they get edited. Having TB or Thunderbird in the title may help us in the forum so that the wrong articles do not get linked. The obvious choice of title for this article would be ''Keyboard shortcuts - Perform common Thunderbird tasks quickly'' <u>Cross Linking to Firefox Articles</u><br /> Not every Firefox user will have Thunderbird. <br />Although note on the popular Ubuntu Linux distro Firefox is the default Browser and Thunderbird is included in the install by default. I do not suggest cross linking Fx articles to TB articles. That is not needed, but in my opinion it may be worth adding a cross-link to Firefox articles where there is a similar article as is the case with Keyboard Shortcuts. I will bring this up in the Contribs forum. I think we need to ensure Roland gives input on this, or we could start making many changes to articles before Roland realises what is underway * I will copy this to <br /> ''Thunderbird Migration February 2014. Finally :-) !'' [https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/forums/contributors/709977] </blockquote> ''John99 [[#post-9323|said]]'' <blockquote> ''ideato [[#post-9319|said]]'' <blockquote> In the beggining of the article, after the "Keyboard Shortcuts TB" for : <br /> About keyboard shortcuts • Shortcut keys and operating systems • Customizing keyboard shortcuts List of keyboard shortcuts in Thunderbird and Lightning • See also <br /> maybe we need a _TOC_ for better view ? thanks </blockquote> Hi Xros, <br /> Yes I think that is an improvement. As you say it is easier to identify and find the content that way. I think it should also aid anyone wishing to link directly to any part of the document such as a single shortcut. <u>Showfor - Other OS</u><br /> It does mention different OS but is not written for those OS maybe we should also improve that. So write each shortcut for each os much in the way that we do for our Firefox article [[Keyboard shortcuts - Perform common Firefox tasks quickly]] <u>Titles & SEO </u><br /> Thinking of the article titles. The Firefox articles were renamed to help with SEO. It may be worth doing similar with Thunderbird articles if and when they get edited. Having TB or Thunderbird in the title may help us in the forum so that the wrong articles do not get linked. The obvious choice of title for this article would be ''Keyboard shortcuts - Perform common Thunderbird tasks quickly'' <u>Cross Linking to Firefox Articles</u><br /> Not every Firefox user will have Thunderbird. <br />Although note on the popular Ubuntu Linux distro Firefox is the default Browser and Thunderbird is included in the install by default. I do not suggest cross linking Fx articles to TB articles. That is not needed, but in my opinion it may be worth adding a cross-link to Firefox articles where there is a similar article as is the case with Keyboard Shortcuts. I will bring this up in the Contribs forum. I think we need to ensure Roland gives input on this, or we could start making many changes to articles before Roland realises what is underway * I will copy this to <br /> ''Thunderbird Migration February 2014. Finally :-) !'' [https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/forums/contributors/709977] </blockquote>
  6. Roland Tanglao 310 posts
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    Hi ojaswee

    This site uses Mediawiki markup (or at least a subset of mediawiki markup) but we don't use the mediawiki software; instead we use our own software code named "Kitsune".

    Correct me if I am wrong folks, but since we use Kitsune I don't think the suggestions that ojaswee made would work since we use Kitsune.

    Cheers!

    ...Roland

    Hi ojaswee This site uses Mediawiki markup (or at least a subset of mediawiki markup) but we don't use the mediawiki software; instead we use our own software code named "Kitsune". Correct me if I am wrong folks, but since we use Kitsune I don't think the suggestions that ojaswee made would work since we use Kitsune. Cheers! ...Roland