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Is Menu Bar shortcut really different between KDE and GNOME?

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  1. Samuel Bronson 0 posts
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    I'm not aware of separate GNOME and KDE versions of Firefox, so I'm not exactly sure why we've got F10 and Alt marked as if they were DE-specific: it doesn't really seem like it's Firefox's business what DE, if any, one might use.

    Do these parentheticals just indicate which DE's conventions each binding follows?

    I'm not aware of separate GNOME and KDE versions of Firefox, so I'm not exactly sure why we've got F10 and Alt marked as if they were DE-specific: it doesn't really seem like it's Firefox's business what DE, if any, one might use. Do these parentheticals just indicate which DE's conventions each binding follows?
  2. John99 3665 posts
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    Distros may have their own builds of Firefox, Ubuntu using Canonical builds with Debian rebranding Firefox as Iceweasel, for historical reasons.

    Different desktops may interact in different ways with Firefox.

    You probably notice Windows XP has or had slightly different options to later Windows version

    I am at the moment using Ubuntu 14.04LTS . Default Firefox browser & default Unity DE I have to hold the Alt key for the menu display. Pressing Alt has another function. Pressing F10 has no effect.

    Distros may have their own builds of Firefox, Ubuntu using Canonical builds with Debian rebranding Firefox as Iceweasel, for historical reasons. Different desktops may interact in different ways with Firefox. You probably notice Windows XP has or had slightly different options to later Windows version I am at the moment using Ubuntu 14.04LTS . Default Firefox browser & default Unity DE I have to hold the Alt key for the menu display. Pressing Alt has another function. Pressing F10 has no effect.
  3. Samuel Bronson 0 posts
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    Hmm, trying this on a recent-ish Iceweasel on wheezy, running XFCE at the moment, I have F10 sending keyboard focus to the menu in a very conspicuous fashion (though using the arrow keys to navigate is subtley broken vs on Windows, because instead of leaving focus on the menubar entry "File", it instead opens up that menu and focuses the first item), and Alt doing nothing obvious on its own until I turn off the menubar.

    After I turn off my menubar, I notice that Alt makes it re-appear without being visibly activated, and following Alt up with one of the underlined letters seems to do much the same as Alt-<letter>. Pressing, say, arrow keys after Alt seems not to do much until I try Down, at which point the Help menu drops down.

    So these keys seem to do different, subtley-wrong things on *nix :-(, and I don't even know if it's a problem with GTK or with Mozilla. Hmm, trying F10 in XFCE, it seems to do the proper thing: it drops down the File menu, but doesn't focus the first entry, leaving focus on the bar entry for File. So it looks like I'll be filing a bug against Firefox ... assuming I don't find anything suspicious in the debian/patches/ directory, I mean.

    Hmm, trying this on a recent-ish Iceweasel on wheezy, running XFCE at the moment, I have F10 sending keyboard focus to the menu in a very conspicuous fashion (though using the arrow keys to navigate is subtley broken vs on Windows, because instead of leaving focus on the menubar entry "File", it instead opens up that menu and focuses the first item), and Alt doing nothing obvious on its own until I turn off the menubar. After I turn off my menubar, I notice that Alt makes it re-appear without being visibly activated, and following Alt up with one of the underlined letters seems to do much the same as Alt-<letter>. Pressing, say, arrow keys after Alt seems not to do much until I try Down, at which point the Help menu drops down. So these keys seem to do different, subtley-wrong things on *nix :-(, and I don't even know if it's a problem with GTK or with Mozilla. Hmm, trying F10 in XFCE, it seems to do the proper thing: it drops down the File menu, but doesn't focus the first entry, leaving focus on the bar entry for File. So it looks like I'll be filing a bug against Firefox ... assuming I don't find anything suspicious in the debian/patches/ directory, I mean.