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Note for fx28, win8 (Windows 8 Touch) that plugins only work in desktop mode

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  1. AliceWyman 5146 posts
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    Edit: I added the following note to the top of the article (pending review)

    {for win8, fx28}{note}You will not be able to use the Flash plugin in Firefox for Windows 8 Touch (Metro mode). As with all plugins, the Flash plugin only works in desktop mode. {/note}{/for}

    Any other ideas? Maybe a template with content similar to the following could be added to all plugin articles?

    {for win8, fx28}{note}Plugins are not supported in Firefox for Windows 8 Touch (Metro mode). If a webpage prompts you to download and install a plugin, switch to desktop mode. {/note}{/for}


    Should a note be added to this article for Win 8, Fx 28 and above, that the Flash plugin only works in desktop mode? Firefox Beta was just released and this question came up in the support forum:

    /questions/985810 Testing "touch friendly" version of firefox - is flash supported? Can see Flash in desktop mode but not in Metro mode.

    In Metro mode it keeps asking to install Flash player. 
    

    ("Solution") Posted 2/8/14 by philipp:

    hello daniellung, no the firefox for windows touch version doesn't support content that uses plugins to display currently. see bug 738600 for reference.
    
    Edit: I added the following note to the top of the article (pending review) {for win8, fx28}{note}You will not be able to use the Flash plugin in Firefox for Windows 8 Touch (Metro mode). As with all plugins, the Flash plugin only works in desktop mode. {/note}{/for} Any other ideas? Maybe a template with content similar to the following could be added to all plugin articles? {for win8, fx28}{note}Plugins are not supported in Firefox for Windows 8 Touch (Metro mode). If a webpage prompts you to download and install a plugin, switch to desktop mode. {/note}{/for} ----- Should a note be added to this article for Win 8, Fx 28 and above, that the Flash plugin only works in desktop mode? Firefox Beta was just released and this question came up in the support forum: [/questions/985810] ''Testing "touch friendly" version of firefox - is flash supported? Can see Flash in desktop mode but not in Metro mode.'' In Metro mode it keeps asking to install Flash player. '''("Solution")''' Posted 2/8/14 by philipp:''' hello daniellung, no the firefox for windows touch version doesn't support content that uses plugins to display currently. see [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=738600 bug 738600] for reference.
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  2. AliceWyman 5146 posts
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    Related bugs:

    Bug 738600 - [Tracking] Plugin support in metrofx

    Matt Brubeck (:mbrubeck) 2013-11-12 11:39:14 PST
    
    For the record, we hoped to support plugins in Metro, but we haven't found a feasible way to do it.  We disabled plugins in bug 789600 because existing NPAPI plugins are not compatible with the Metro environment, and we have not been able to get plugin makers to provide versions of their plugins that do work with Firefox for Metro.  Bug 806536 has some of the technical details.
    
    (For comparison: Chrome and IE both have limited support for plugins in Metro.  They support special versions of Flash, but no other plugins.)
    

    Bug 936907 - On a page with plugins, automatically prompt the user to switch to desktop

    Matt Brubeck (:mbrubeck) 2013-11-10 08:56:56 PST
    
    Firefox for Metro cannot support plugins for technical reasons.  Based on the large number of bugs filed (e.g. bug 738600 and duplicates, as well as others), this is one of the biggest user pain points in the current version.  Barring a complete solution, we should at least mitigate the pain.
    
    Currently, pages that require plugins will usually prompt the Metro Firefox user to download and install a plugin.  After the user follows the instructions, the page still won't work.  Metro Firefox doesn't do anything to help inform the user that they need desktop Firefox to use any installed plugins.
    
    Matt Brubeck (:mbrubeck) 2014-02-03 13:59:36 PST
    
    I wonder if Shumway (bug 904346) could be used as a way to play Flash content in Metro, with a "switch to desktop" prompt as a fallback for content that fails with Shumway...
    

    Bug 904346 - (shumway) [meta] add built-in SWF support to Firefox with Shumway


    Bug 967306 - (metro-shumway) Use Shumway to display Flash content in Metro Firefox

    Matt Brubeck (:mbrubeck) 2014-02-03 16:22:18 PST
    
    This bug will track the work required to ship Shumway (see bug 904346) enabled by default in Firefox for Windows 8 Touch (a.k.a. "Metro").
    
    Metro Firefox is a particularly good use case for Shumway, since it can't support NPAPI flash for technical reasons (see bug 738600).
    

    Related bugs: [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=738600 Bug 738600] - [Tracking] Plugin support in metrofx Matt Brubeck (:mbrubeck) 2013-11-12 11:39:14 PST For the record, we hoped to support plugins in Metro, but we haven't found a feasible way to do it. We disabled plugins in [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=789600 bug 789600] because existing NPAPI plugins are not compatible with the Metro environment, and we have not been able to get plugin makers to provide versions of their plugins that do work with Firefox for Metro. [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=806536 Bug 806536] has some of the technical details. (For comparison: Chrome and IE both have limited support for plugins in Metro. They support special versions of Flash, but no other plugins.) ----- [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=936907 Bug 936907] - On a page with plugins, automatically prompt the user to switch to desktop Matt Brubeck (:mbrubeck) 2013-11-10 08:56:56 PST Firefox for Metro cannot support plugins for technical reasons. Based on the large number of bugs filed (e.g. [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=738600 bug 738600] and duplicates, as well as others), this is one of the biggest user pain points in the current version. Barring a complete solution, we should at least mitigate the pain. Currently, pages that require plugins will usually prompt the Metro Firefox user to download and install a plugin. After the user follows the instructions, the page still won't work. Metro Firefox doesn't do anything to help inform the user that they need desktop Firefox to use any installed plugins. Matt Brubeck (:mbrubeck) 2014-02-03 13:59:36 PST I wonder if Shumway ([https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=904346 bug 904346]) could be used as a way to play Flash content in Metro, with a "switch to desktop" prompt as a fallback for content that fails with Shumway... ----- [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=904346 Bug 904346] - (shumway) [meta] add built-in SWF support to Firefox with Shumway ----- [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=967306 Bug 967306] - (metro-shumway) Use Shumway to display Flash content in Metro Firefox Matt Brubeck (:mbrubeck) 2014-02-03 16:22:18 PST This bug will track the work required to ship Shumway (see [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=904346 bug 904346]) enabled by default in Firefox for Windows 8 Touch (a.k.a. "Metro"). Metro Firefox is a particularly good use case for Shumway, since it can't support NPAPI flash for technical reasons (see [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=738600 bug 738600]). -----
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  3. AliceWyman 5146 posts
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    See /forums/contributors/710085 Firefox for Windows 8 Metro

    Since the Metro (Touch) version of Firefox will not be released I've removed the note.

    See [/forums/contributors/710085] Firefox for Windows 8 Metro Since the Metro (Touch) version of Firefox will not be released I've removed the note.
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    AliceWyman said

    See /forums/contributors/710085 Firefox for Windows 8 Metro Since the Metro (Touch) version of Firefox will not be released I've removed the note.


    Correct decision, reviewed, approved, ready to localize.

    ''AliceWyman [[#post-9429|said]]'' <blockquote> See [/forums/contributors/710085] Firefox for Windows 8 Metro Since the Metro (Touch) version of Firefox will not be released I've removed the note. </blockquote> Correct decision, reviewed, approved, ready to localize.
  5. AliceWyman 5146 posts
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    Thanks.

    Thanks.