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[Feedback] Site Identity Button feedback

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  1. +CGO+SenseiC 0 posts
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    Since the Site Identity Button article is locked... and thus no real mechanism to provide feedback, I figured I would create a thread to offer some feedback [NOT intended to irritate, but if it irritates folks, oh well] on the change of the status bar / padlock change.

    You've already seen comments about color blindness, etc. (which ends up more of "insult piled upon injury" considering my observation) so I won't "go there", but I find many sites that fall under the "basic identity information" category show up as the same color of "blue" as the rest of the border. For example THIS page the difference between the two: Button color: (H: 214, S: 14, B: 95) vs. Border color: (H: 215, S: 12, B: 93)

    The color's so close that I confess hadn't even noticed that the button on something like CNN is white. (my financial institution actually presents their own "lock" symbol on the login page).

    IMHO it's absurd to have to install an add-on to get a more obvious indicator. I (basically) understand the reason behind the "three tiers", but you REALLY need an OBVIOUS indicator of some sort. Browser security is far too important for you to have implemented the "new mechanism" in such a blasé manner.

    Sensei bows out.

    Since the Site Identity Button article is locked... and thus no real mechanism to provide feedback, I figured I would create a thread to offer some feedback ['''''NOT''''' intended to irritate, but if it irritates folks, oh well] on the change of the status bar / padlock change. You've already seen comments about color blindness, etc. (which ends up more of "insult piled upon injury" considering my observation) so I won't "go there", but I find many sites that fall under the "basic identity information" category show up as the same color of "blue" as the rest of the border. For example THIS page the difference between the two: Button color: (H: 214, S: 14, B: 95) vs. Border color: (H: 215, S: 12, B: 93) The color's so close that I confess hadn't even noticed that the button on something like CNN is white. (my financial institution actually presents their own "lock" symbol on the login page). IMHO it's absurd to have to install an add-on to get a more obvious indicator. I (basically) understand the reason behind the "three tiers", but you REALLY need an OBVIOUS indicator of some sort. Browser security is '''''far too important''''' for you to have implemented the "new mechanism" in such a blasé manner. Sensei bows out.
  2. Michael Verdi 1755 posts
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    Hi Sensei, You're in the right place to provide feedback on the article. I'll pass your comments on to the UX team but to answer some of your concerns, there are actually two things besides color that we do to indicate a secure site:

    1. When a site uses "https" we show it in the location bar. For regular "http" sites we hide that part of the url.
    2. When a site uses "https" the shape of the Site Identity button is different. For a regular http site, the button is the size of the favicon. For an https site the button includes both the favicon and domain name.
    Hi Sensei, You're in the right place to provide feedback on the article. I'll pass your comments on to the UX team but to answer some of your concerns, there are actually two things besides color that we do to indicate a secure site: #When a site uses "https" we show it in the location bar. For regular "http" sites we hide that part of the url. #When a site uses "https" the shape of the Site Identity button is different. For a regular http site, the button is the size of the favicon. For an https site the button includes both the favicon and domain name.
  3. +CGO+SenseiC 0 posts
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    Well I will freely admit I never noticed (paid attention) to the http getting hidden and https getting displayed (just double-checked it... sure enough!).

    As for the "shape of the Site Identity button" differing, I would counter that while YOU (and now I too) know that, that change doesn't convey any MEANING whereas the addition of the proverbial "lock" icon does clearly indicate something even when you don't entirely understand the significance.

    SenseiC

    Well I will freely admit I never noticed (paid attention) to the http getting hidden and https getting displayed (just double-checked it... sure enough!). As for the "shape of the Site Identity button" differing, I would counter that while YOU (and now I too) know that, that change doesn't convey any MEANING whereas the addition of the proverbial "lock" icon does clearly indicate something even when you don't entirely understand the significance. SenseiC
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  4. Raficus 0 posts
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    I second @SenseiC, there is a strength in the simplicity of the padlock.

    I was looking online (googling) but could not find any justification or argument as to why this was changed. I don't think that such a difference would be accidental. Would someone know the reasoning behind this change? I refuse to believe FireFox UX team made this decision purely on graphical grounds.

    I second @SenseiC, there is a strength in the simplicity of the padlock. I was looking online (googling) but could not find any justification or argument as to why this was changed. I don't think that such a difference would be accidental. Would someone know the reasoning behind this change? I refuse to believe FireFox UX team made this decision purely on graphical grounds.