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  1. Tonnes 63 posts
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    Sorry but I’m still not happy about the content.

    - The alternative solution is not an alternative solution in my opinion - both point to and use the exact same code, which may make the user think they are doing something wrong or overlooking something (aka 'confusing') - There is no mention of adding code for an existing userChrome.css - I don’t think we should link to Technet articles (this only happens for one obsolete article), as a) they may be volatile and b) they do not exist for non-English locales. I used the alternative mentioned above for mine.

    Sorry but I’m still not happy about the content. - The alternative solution is not an alternative solution in my opinion - both point to and use the exact same code, which may make the user think they are doing something wrong or overlooking something (aka 'confusing') - There is no mention of ''adding code'' for an existing userChrome.css - I don’t think we should link to Technet articles (this only happens for [[Unable to access secure (HTTPS) sites in Firefox 43|one]] obsolete article), as a) they may be volatile and b) they do not exist for non-English locales. I used the alternative mentioned above for mine.
  2. AliceWyman 5147 posts
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    Tonnes, I'll try making another new revision but it might take awhile. I made a new revision but I'll wait awhile to mark it RFL.

    If you're still not happy with the content, can you make the next revision?

    Tonnes, <s>I'll try making another new revision but it might take awhile.</s> I made a new revision but I'll wait awhile to mark it RFL. If you're still not happy with the content, can you make the next revision?
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  3. AliceWyman 5147 posts
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    See also https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1189654#answer-1038747

    AliceWyman said

    Also make sure the file name is userChome.css and not UserChrome.css.css ... which could happen when you renamed the file you downloaded, if Windows is hiding filename extensions. To view extensions on Windows 7 , go to any folder, click to Tools -> Folder Options -> View and, under Advanced, remove the checkmark from the option, "Hide extensions for known file types."

    nancy9 said

    THAT was the problem--double css extensions. Thank you so much. Hope you had a great Thanksgiving, all of you who helped!

    I made a new revision to mention the double .css.css filename issue. I also linked to https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/how-to-show-file-extensions-in-windows/ since I couldn't find a better link. I'll wait awhile before marking it RFL in case there's something else that needs changing.

    See also https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1189654#answer-1038747 ''AliceWyman [[#answer-1038747|said]]'' <blockquote> Also make sure the file name is userChome.css and not UserChrome.css.css ... which could happen when you renamed the file you downloaded, if Windows is hiding filename extensions. To view extensions on Windows 7 , go to any folder, click to Tools -> Folder Options -> View and, under Advanced, remove the checkmark from the option, "Hide extensions for known file types." </blockquote> ''nancy9 [[#answer-1039205|said]]'' <blockquote> THAT was the problem--double css extensions. Thank you so much. Hope you had a great Thanksgiving, all of you who helped! </blockquote> I made a new revision to mention the double .css.css filename issue. I also linked to https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/how-to-show-file-extensions-in-windows/ since I couldn't find a better link. I'll wait awhile before marking it RFL in case there's something else that needs changing.
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  4. Tonnes 63 posts
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    Can we just link here for the file name extensions issue instructions rather than technet or bleepingcomputer? Localized articles need instructions too, and they are available there.

    Can we just link [https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/865219/how-to-show-or-hide-file-name-extensions-in-windows-explorer here] for the file name extensions issue instructions rather than technet or bleepingcomputer? Localized articles need instructions too, and they are available there.
  5. AliceWyman 5147 posts
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    Tonnes said

    Can we just link here for the file name extensions issue instructions rather than technet or bleepingcomputer? Localized articles need instructions too, and they are available there.

    The Microsoft article here is only for Windows 7 and below.

    ''Tonnes [[#post-15927|said]]'' <blockquote> Can we just link [https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/865219/how-to-show-or-hide-file-name-extensions-in-windows-explorer here] for the file name extensions issue instructions rather than technet or bleepingcomputer? Localized articles need instructions too, and they are available there. </blockquote> The Microsoft article [https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/865219/how-to-show-or-hide-file-name-extensions-in-windows-explorer here] is only for Windows 7 and below.
  6. Tonnes 63 posts
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    AliceWyman said

    The Microsoft article here is only for Windows 7 and below.

    I know, but it should still be valid for any Windows OS and better than linking to external English-only instructions that may disappear too, IMO.

    ''AliceWyman [[#post-15928|said]]'' <blockquote>The Microsoft article [https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/865219/how-to-show-or-hide-file-name-extensions-in-windows-explorer here] is only for Windows 7 and below. </blockquote> I know, but it should still be valid for any Windows OS and better than linking to external English-only instructions that may disappear too, IMO.
  7. AliceWyman 5147 posts
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    Tonnes said

    Localized articles need instructions too

    Under Otherwise, follow these instructions:
    (See this help page and our community member's video starting at 8:45 for more information.)


    The linked https://www.userchrome.org/how-create-userchrome-css.html article (which has a "Make sure Windows is set to show you file extensions like .txt and .css" section with steps for all Windows versions, by the way) is also in English but we link to it.

    ''Tonnes [[#post-15927|said]]'' <blockquote>Localized articles need instructions too </blockquote> Under '''Otherwise, follow these instructions''':<br> (See [https://www.userchrome.org/how-create-userchrome-css.html this help page] and our [https://vimeo.com/242513527 community member's video starting at 8:45] for more information.) ----- The linked https://www.userchrome.org/how-create-userchrome-css.html article (which has a "Make sure Windows is set to show you file extensions like .txt and .css" section with steps for all Windows versions, by the way) is also in English but we link to it.
  8. AliceWyman 5147 posts
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    Tonnes said

    AliceWyman said
    The Microsoft article here is only for Windows 7 and below.

    I know, but it should still be valid for any Windows OS

    Those instructions say to uncheck "Hide extensions for known file types" which isn't an option for Windows 8 and Windows 10.

    Here are the instructions from the https://www.userchrome.org/how-create-userchrome-css.html article:


    In newer visions of Windows, where Windows Explorer has a "ribbon" at the top with a View tab, you can click View, then find the checkbox for "File name extensions" and check the box. In older versions of Windows, one of these methods should work:

    • Activate the top menu bar by tapping the Alt key or F10 key, click Tools, then Folder Options, then the View tab. Uncheck the checkbox for "Hide extensions for known file types."
    • If Windows Explorer has an Organize button on the toolbar, click Organize, then Folder and Search options, then the View tab. Uncheck the checkbox for "Hide extensions for known file types."

    ''Tonnes [[#post-15929|said]]'' <blockquote> ''AliceWyman [[#post-15928|said]]'' <blockquote>The Microsoft article [https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/865219/how-to-show-or-hide-file-name-extensions-in-windows-explorer here] is only for Windows 7 and below. </blockquote> I know, but it should still be valid for any Windows OS </blockquote> Those instructions say to uncheck "Hide extensions for known file types" which isn't an option for Windows 8 and Windows 10. Here are the instructions from the https://www.userchrome.org/how-create-userchrome-css.html article: ----- In newer visions of Windows, where Windows Explorer has a "ribbon" at the top with a View tab, you can click View, then find the checkbox for "File name extensions" and check the box. In older versions of Windows, one of these methods should work: * Activate the top menu bar by tapping the Alt key or F10 key, click Tools, then Folder Options, then the View tab. Uncheck the checkbox for "Hide extensions for known file types." * If Windows Explorer has an Organize button on the toolbar, click Organize, then Folder and Search options, then the View tab. Uncheck the checkbox for "Hide extensions for known file types." -----
  9. Tonnes 63 posts
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    AliceWyman said

    The linked https://www.userchrome.org/how-create-userchrome-css.html article (which has a "Make sure Windows is set to show you file extensions like .txt and .css" section with steps for all Windows versions, by the way) is also in English but we link to it.

    That’s because that website is English-only. The same goes for 2 other references to Bleepincomputer in forum replies for malware tools, which isn’t that bad when it comes to finding a download link only. That’s different from article instructions for Windows that should be available in all languages.

    Here are the instructions from the https://www.userchrome.org/how-create-userchrome-css.html article: <snip>

    If the instructions referred to aren’t valid for Windows 8 and up, I think we should rather include (copy) the text at the userchrome website above in articles or forum replies themselves than just link to it.

    My locale appears to have 90+% of readers who either speak or understand English according to some statistics so I could say I don’t care in some way, but that does not cover everyone, may not be valid for other locales, and it makes no sense to link to English-only articles only and let localizers find out alternative resources for themselves, and users may accuse Mozilla for being focused on English only, as sometimes happens.

    I sure wish anyone involved with Sumo gets that. There a lots of articles and issues for articles remained unsolved at this point, leading to not fully localized Sumo content, giving the impression l10n for Sumo is not (or no longer) important at all, and leading to annoyance. As said earlier, I tend to disagree.

    ''AliceWyman [[#post-15931|said]]'' <blockquote>The linked https://www.userchrome.org/how-create-userchrome-css.html article (which has a "Make sure Windows is set to show you file extensions like .txt and .css" section with steps for all Windows versions, by the way) is also in English but we link to it. </blockquote> That’s because that website is English-only. The same goes for 2 other references to Bleepincomputer in forum replies for malware tools, which isn’t that bad when it comes to finding a download link only. That’s different from article instructions for Windows that should be available in all languages. <blockquote>Here are the instructions from the https://www.userchrome.org/how-create-userchrome-css.html article: <snip> </blockquote> If the instructions referred to aren’t valid for Windows 8 and up, I think we should rather include (copy) the text at the userchrome website above in articles or forum replies themselves than just link to it. My locale appears to have 90+% of readers who either speak or understand English according to some statistics so I could say I don’t care in some way, but that does not cover everyone, may not be valid for other locales, and it makes no sense to link to English-only articles only and let localizers find out alternative resources for themselves, and users may accuse Mozilla for being focused on English only, as sometimes happens. I sure wish anyone involved with Sumo gets that. There a lots of articles and issues for articles remained unsolved at this point, leading to not fully localized Sumo content, giving the impression l10n for Sumo is not (or no longer) important at all, and leading to annoyance. As said earlier, I tend to disagree.
  10. AliceWyman 5147 posts
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    https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/forum-response-tabs-below-url-bar/revision/153385 is pending review. I replaced the bleepingcomputer link for steps to show file name extensions, with https://support.microsoft.com/help/865219/how-to-show-or-hide-file-name-extensions-in-windows-explorer

    I also added the following links for Windows 8 and Windows 10 with a hidden comment for localizers that these are English language pages:

    https://fileinfo.com/help/windows_8_show_or_hide_file_extensions https://fileinfo.com/help/windows_10_show_file_extensions

    I'll wait awhile before approving it and marking it RFL. Tonnes ? OK with you?

    P.s. according to the two fileinfo.com pages, "Hide extensions for known file types" are still available options for Windows 8 and Windows 10 but the "File name extensions" checkbox is easier to find.

    https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/forum-response-tabs-below-url-bar/revision/153385 is pending review. I replaced the bleepingcomputer link for steps to show file name extensions, with https://support.microsoft.com/help/865219/how-to-show-or-hide-file-name-extensions-in-windows-explorer I also added the following links for Windows 8 and Windows 10 with a hidden comment for localizers that these are English language pages: https://fileinfo.com/help/windows_8_show_or_hide_file_extensions https://fileinfo.com/help/windows_10_show_file_extensions I'll wait awhile before approving it and marking it RFL. Tonnes ? OK with you? P.s. according to the two fileinfo''.''com pages, "Hide extensions for known file types" are still available options for Windows 8 and Windows 10 but the "File name extensions" checkbox is easier to find.
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  11. AliceWyman 5147 posts
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    I made another revision to move the note for Windows users under the steps and then approved it RFL.

    I made another revision to move the note for Windows users under the steps and then approved it RFL.
  12. Tonnes 63 posts
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    Thank you. Actually and by surprise, I noticed a Thunderbird article that points here for Win7, 8.1 and 10 instructions for showing hidden file types, probably available in many locales. Would that be useful?

    Edit: Hmm.., skip that. Hidden files is of course different from file types.

    Thank you. <s>Actually and by surprise, I noticed a Thunderbird article that points [https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/14201/windows-show-hidden-files here] for Win7, 8.1 and 10 instructions for showing hidden file types, probably available in many locales. Would that be useful?</s> Edit: Hmm.., skip that. Hidden files is of course different from file ''types''.
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  13. AliceWyman 5147 posts
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    I actually came across https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/14201/windows-show-hidden-files when looking for a Microsoft article and thought to use it ... until I looked closer.

    I actually came across https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/14201/windows-show-hidden-files when looking for a Microsoft article and thought to use it ... until I looked closer.
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