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  1. Michael Verdi 1755 posts
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    Background information http://people.mozilla.com/~lco/FHR/130315%20FHR%20MVP-v1.pdf
  2. Andrew 951 posts
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    I like it! I just had a quick look and skimmed it over. Looks great.

    I like it! I just had a quick look and skimmed it over. Looks great.
  3. AliceWyman 4177 posts
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    Related discussion:

    Related discussion: *[/forums/contributors/709103] FHR Health Report, Telemetry, & Crashes
  4. Michael Verdi 1755 posts
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    I took Larissa's initial text (in a private google doc) and drafted the article. I approved it since the feature will be released in beta tomorrow.

    I took Larissa's initial text (in a private google doc) and drafted the article. I approved it since the feature will be released in beta tomorrow.
  5. magicalfour 0 posts
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    Thanks, Michael.

    I am thinking of standardizing our usage of "my report" vs "your report" in the questions to make it consistent. Is there one style that we should adopt based on our existing standards or is it up to us?

    Thanks, Michael. I am thinking of standardizing our usage of "my report" vs "your report" in the questions to make it consistent. Is there one style that we should adopt based on our existing standards or is it up to us?
  6. John99 2812 posts
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    Verdi said

    I took Larissa's initial text (in a private google doc) and drafted the article. I approved it since the feature will be released in beta tomorrow.

    How does that tie in with

    Tylerdowner said

    We haven't even nailed down the UI of FHR, so expect it not to work fully for sometime (at least the user facing portions). Eventually it should help users self-heal their Firefox (crashes, slowness, etc.) quickly and easily, either with in-product fixes, or links to SUMO.

    Is something I have not noticed working in Aurora suddenly going to be fully functional in Beta across all desktop platforms ?

    ''Verdi [[#post-8256|said]]'' <blockquote> I took Larissa's initial text (in a private google doc) and drafted the article. I approved it since the feature will be released in beta tomorrow. </blockquote> How does that tie in with ''Tylerdowner [https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/forums/contributors/709103#post-51734 said]'' <blockquote> We haven't even nailed down the UI of FHR, so expect it not to work fully for sometime (at least the user facing portions). Eventually it should help users self-heal their Firefox (crashes, slowness, etc.) quickly and easily, either with in-product fixes, or links to SUMO. </blockquote> Is something I have not noticed working in Aurora suddenly going to be fully functional in Beta across all desktop platforms ?
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  7. John99 2812 posts
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    Why the remmed out comment

    <!-- =Who owns the data collected?= You own all data collected by FHR. You can delete it anytime by going to _____ and by pressing the delete button. After information is sent to Mozilla’s servers, it stays there for 180 days and is automatically deleted after that. -->

    Is the data initially being collected but without the ability to delete it ?
    (Not that I see why anyone would wish to allow anonymised data to be collected then decide they wish it to be deleted.)

    Why the remmed out comment <nowiki> <!-- =Who owns the data collected?= You own all data collected by FHR. You can delete it anytime by going to _____ and by pressing the delete button. After information is sent to Mozilla’s servers, it stays there for 180 days and is automatically deleted after that. --> </nowiki> Is the data initially being collected but without the ability to delete it ? <br /> (Not that I see why anyone would wish to allow anonymised data to be collected then decide they wish it to be deleted.)
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  8. magicalfour 0 posts
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    John99:

    If anyone's to blame, it will be me. I put in placeholder text in the draft to make sure that we let the users know how they are in control of their data — so, that's just my babble there (don't know how it got here :/). Intent was to replace it with what's technically the right answer. Larissa also earlier made a good point that it might be something that has to go into the privacy policy (instead of/in addition to).

    John99: If anyone's to blame, it will be me. I put in placeholder text in the draft to make sure that we let the users know how they are in control of their data — so, that's just my babble there (don't know how it got here :/). Intent was to replace it with what's technically the right answer. Larissa also earlier made a good point that it might be something that has to go into the privacy policy (instead of/in addition to).
  9. John99 2812 posts
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    Hi magicalfour,

    I am not trying to blame anyone. I am just trying to work out the significance of the comment. Also wondering if when this launches today/tomorrow are we collecting data without allowing deletion, but at some future point allowing deletion?

    I have had this turned on for a while and presume it has been collecting data. Is this and the telemetry data publicly viewable ? if so where?

    I can find the bug report stats , & the input/feedback but have no idea where this data is.

    Not relevant to this article but will a similar option allow deletion of telemetry data ?

    Hi magicalfour, I am not trying to blame anyone. I am just trying to work out the significance of the comment. Also wondering if when this launches today/tomorrow are we collecting data without allowing deletion, but at some future point allowing deletion? I have had this turned on for a while and presume it has been collecting data. Is this and the telemetry data publicly viewable ? if so where? I can find the bug report stats , & the input/feedback but have no idea where this data is. Not relevant to this article but will a similar option allow deletion of telemetry data ?
  10. Michael Verdi 1755 posts
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    John99 said

    Why the remmed out comment

    That was me. I wanted to keep the info copied from the google doc but since the instructions weren't complete I removed it from the displayed instructions.

    John99 said

    Is something I have not noticed working in Aurora suddenly going to be fully functional in Beta across all desktop platforms ?

    Yes that's the way I understand it. I haven't seen it in action yet either.


    magicalfour said

    I am thinking of standardizing our usage of "my report" vs "your report" in the questions to make it consistent. Is there one style that we should adopt based on our existing standards or is it up to us?

    I'm not quite sure of the context. The answer is it's up to us if we're talking about the sumo article. To me it makes sense to say "your report" or "the report" when it's us talking but to say "my report" or "the report" when voicing things for the user (e.g. a section heading - "How do I view my report?" or "How do I view the report?").

    ''John99 [[#post-8260|said]]'' <blockquote> Why the remmed out comment </blockquote> That was me. I wanted to keep the info copied from the google doc but since the instructions weren't complete I removed it from the displayed instructions. ''John99 [[#post-8258|said]]'' <blockquote> Is something I have not noticed working in Aurora suddenly going to be fully functional in Beta across all desktop platforms ? </blockquote> Yes that's the way I understand it. I haven't seen it in action yet either. ''magicalfour [[#post-8257|said]]'' <blockquote> I am thinking of standardizing our usage of "my report" vs "your report" in the questions to make it consistent. Is there one style that we should adopt based on our existing standards or is it up to us? </blockquote> I'm not quite sure of the context. The answer is it's up to us if we're talking about the sumo article. To me it makes sense to say "your report" or "the report" when it's us talking but to say "my report" or "the report" when voicing things for the user (e.g. a section heading - "How do I view my report?" or "How do I view the report?").
  11. magicalfour 0 posts
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    >Also wondering if when this launches today/tomorrow are we collecting data without allowing deletion, but at some future point allowing deletion?


    I do not know yet — although secretly, I was hoping for it (I have seen it in another product that is different from what we do and personally found it reassuring.) Need to think (and discuss with the team) if it makes sense in this context and also figure out who best can answer this from a tech standpoint. Let me get back on this.

    >Also wondering if when this launches today/tomorrow are we collecting data without allowing deletion, but at some future point allowing deletion? I do not know yet — although secretly, I was hoping for it (I have seen it in another product that is different from what we do and personally found it reassuring.) Need to think (and discuss with the team) if it makes sense in this context and also figure out who best can answer this from a tech standpoint. Let me get back on this.
  12. John99 2812 posts
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    Michael & magicalfour,
    Ok thanks for the replies so far.

    This does look like it will be an interesting feature once it is fully functional. Rather odd it being launched in Beta instead of Nightly.

    Michael & magicalfour, <br /> Ok thanks for the replies so far. This does look like it will be an interesting feature once it is fully functional. Rather odd it being launched in Beta instead of Nightly.
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  13. jscher2000 192 posts
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    For Firefox 20, should there be a banner that "this does not apply to you"?

    For Firefox 20, should there be a banner that "this does not apply to you"?
  14. Michael Verdi 1755 posts
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    jscher2000 said

    For Firefox 20, should there be a banner that "this does not apply to you"?

    Good catch! I made a mistake and only had it showing for Fx19 and lower. Fixed now.

    ''jscher2000 [[#post-8273|said]]'' <blockquote> For Firefox 20, should there be a banner that "this does not apply to you"? </blockquote> Good catch! I made a mistake and only had it showing for Fx19 and lower. Fixed now.
  15. John99 2812 posts
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    Does this not work on Linux ?

    It is not working at all on

    • Aurora 21.0a2 (2013-04-01) {Canonical)
    • Beta 21.0 {Mozilla)

    They show the menu

    Help -> Aurora Health Report
    Help -> Firefox Health Report
    

    But they both give error

    Not Found
    The requested URL /en-GB/ was not found on this server.
    
    Does this not work on Linux ? It is not working at all on *Aurora 21.0a2 (2013-04-01) {Canonical) *Beta 21.0 {Mozilla) They show the menu <br/> Help -> Aurora Health Report Help -> Firefox Health Report But they both give error Not Found The requested URL /en-GB/ was not found on this server.
  16. John99 2812 posts
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    This has since been rolled out, but I suspect it is still in active development.

    This has since been rolled out, but I suspect it is still in active development.