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Hi,

I am a longtime Thunderbird user. I have 3 email accounts that I check via Thunderbird. I am having issues on just one of those accounts since the 115 Supernova update. I see the message "checking inbox for new messages" but they are not downloading. I have ATT email through Yahoo, and I can log into Yahoo Mail (webmail) and see the messages there ... they suddenly are just not downloading to Thunderbird.

I have tried:

compacting folders Thunderbird safe mode Windows safe mode with networking turning my antivirus off temporarily moving all emails in that account Inbox to a backup folder

I'm frustrated and need to download mail - can you please help me?! Thanks!

I am very unhappy with this new Thunderbird update to 115.3.1. Everything being changed is killing my office's productivity. How can I roll back that update to the one before it.

Alternatively, is there any way to make this new update look and act like the previous version. I want all the control buttons back that used to be there.

As I just said: It tells me that there's Stuff downloading, but NOTHING shows up. [See attachment; [T-BIRD-01.png]; this may make a reply to this rather difficult]. How do I get the lists back.

Thankx [I'll be checking back]

The Gray Cat << tmc@att.net >>

The QUICK version is that Thunderbird automatically downloaded and installed 102.1.2, it "updated" my profile, completely corrupted it and NOW It's acting like a NEW install - NO accounts or emails, it's demanding that I enter my first email account information.

I've tried going back to version 91 and it can't read EITHER of my saved profiles because 102 "upgraded" them. Version 102 IMPORT routine DOES NOT WORK EITHER. Probably thinks that profile is already at 102 even though it WON'T utilize it.

I'm entirely HOSED - all email accounts and all emails GONE GONE GONE.

Here's a summary of my futile attempts to get help since this occurred Monday AM -

Thunderbird Wack-A-Mole:

8/15/2022

Version 102 COMPLETELY HOSED MY EMAIL.

It's demanding that I setup a new email account before it will allow me to do anything!

Meanwhile I have two dozen email accounts and thousands of emails THAT I CAN'T GET TO!

I've just spent a half hour trying to find a copy of version 92.

VERSION 102 hosed my email.

What NOW?

It demands that I setup a new email account and from what I read here my 2 dozen email accounts and thousands of emails may not be accessible any more anyway.

WHERE CAN I GET A COPY OF 92????

"Mark Lang":

From what you are describing, it seems like your TB is not recognizing your profile -- which would cause it to ask you to set up a new one. I would be more specific about exactly what you did to get to this point. You also might want to check what the profile manager is saying. Select the 3 bars in the upper right corner of TB, then Help>more troubleshooting information. Near the bottom of the first table that appears you can click on about:profiles. It should list any profiles TB recognizes. If more than one profile is listed, you might try switching to another one to see if that recovers what you missing. At any rate, more information about specifically what you did, the exact version of 102, etc. will help folks on this forum to give you assistance. The problems described in this thread seem to have been fixed by the versions of 102 at least from 102.1.xxx. At any rate, your emails should still be there on the servers.

8/16/2022:

VERSION 102.2 has DESTROYED ME!!!

When it automatically updated on BOTH my laptop and desktop, I could no longer access my email profile - NO EMAILS and ALL of my 20 email accounts are GONE GONE GONE.

I tried updating with earlier version - doesn't work because 102.2 RUINED MY PROFILE.

I tried updating with 102.2 again and then IMPORTING my accounts and messages from profile and It's STILL demanding that I setup from start again.

I didn't see your response at first, my previous email details what happened. I'll add other steps here:

Getting ready to go on the road for a week. Copied my entire Thundebird profile (26 Gig) to an SSD USB Drive.

Had older version on my laptop - not sure which version - connected to profile, got new emails but NO message bodies would appear in the message window.

Thunderbird automatically "updated" on laptop and then email was hosed - acts like new install.

Then the SAME thing happened on my desktop.

Now ALL of my profiles are screwed! I'm on the road so I don't have ANY email setup information.

"Mark Lang": The TB team recently changed the settings so that that internal updating function would upgrade users to version 102.1.2. Previously, you only got version 102 (instead of the 91.xx series) if you specifically downloaded the new version from the website. Version 102 is a major upgrade and does change the profile folder. It seems like, for some reason, your TB install is not recognizing the folder as changed. This will likely require some work from the development team to track down. Perhaps something is not working with the internal upgrade function. One user reported that he simply downloaded the full install file for version 102.1.2 from the website and reinstalled it, and it then worked fine. You might try that.

Thanks for the quick answer.

I downloaded a complete install for 102.1.2 TODAY and installed it on my laptop.

Then I ran the import from my old profile. It SAID it imported Although it seemed to happen rather fast...

Then SAME THING!!!

I start Thunderbird and it Demands I enter email account to setup.

I won't be able to do much with your tech guys until I fly back home - I'll be home in Hawai'i by Thursday (8/18).

The "updates" that hosed my email were automatic. I DID NOT request them.

My problem is I can't get to my email - EVERYTHING is HOSED in my Profile. I've tried running the import, it says it imports from old profile and doesn't. We're talking at least a dozen email accounts.

It's as if I had NEVER had TB on my computer and I am starting from scratch.

This F.U. occurred just as I was leaving home to go on a trip.

I was a professional computer programmer, consultant, systems designer from 1965 until 2006. It's amazing how techies don't realize that their "mistakes" can really mess up someone's life. I gotta' admit it took quite a few years before I realized what I was doing.

"Mark Lang":

You are saying you imported from your old profile. (NO - IMPORT DID NOT WORK!)

When TB did the update to 102.1.2, it should have converted the profile in place and opened with everything as it was already set up. (IT DID CONVERT - then accounts were gone, email was gone, got NOTHING as described above. Acts like a new install on computer that never had Tbird on it before.)

You should not have to import anything. I am not quite sure how you are importing unless you exported the profile earlier. Perhaps the import process is what is messing up your profile. If you tried an import process that did not work for some reason, that might be why it is asking you to set up everything again. Perhaps the import created a new profile that is blank because it did not import properly. I would go to about:profiles like I suggested earlier. Maybe your original profile is still there. If you see multiple profiles, try switching to the other ones to see if your old profile with all your emails is there, just not selected as the current profile.

I have COMPLETE "corrupted" profiles saved on 2 computers - my desktop and laptop. All of the files are there but Version 102 has corrupted them so they won't work on 102 and won't work on earlier version 91.12.0 that I downloaded and installed either - of course.

"Wayne Mery - moderator":

Chetdude,

Your issue is completely unrelated to the original poster, therefore I am locking this topic because it is very hard to properly support multiple issues within the same topic. Please post your own new topic.

Did you really just update to version 102 immediately prior to going on a trip? Old Thunderbird releases can be found at https://releases.mozilla.org/pub/thunderbird/releases/ Available profiles can be listed by doing Help > More Troubleshooting Info > about:profiles

(DIDN'T HELP.)

I am unable to install add-ons for Thunderbird for my Chromebook that I have installed via the embedded Linux OS that's in Chromebook. Inside the app(Thunderbird), I go to addons.thunderbird.net and attempt to install an add-on and this box with this button inside it pops up and I have to click on that button to confirm installation of that add-on. Well, I try clicking on that button and nothing happens and that box doesn't go away. I enclosed a screenshot to give you an idea of what I'm talking about.

Version 115.4.3 seems to have eliminated the Mail Toolbar altogether. The “Unified Toolbar” support page at https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/unified-toolbar refers to a “Tabs Bar” which is not part of the standard Thunderbird vocabulary (there is a “Tab Strip” at https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-customize-toolbars#w_how-do-i-sh.... If you keep changing the toolbars and the vocabulary, you are going to confuse everyone, including yourselves. Now the user cannot customize the Menu Bar (or the Unified Toolbar), so the main buttons on the Mail Toolbar (Get Messages, Write, Chat, Tag, QuickFilter, Address Book etc.) are just not there. There is also no visible way to display the Mail Toolbar. It seems that in their desperate indecision as to whether the Menu Bar or the Mail Toolbar should be on top, the developers of Thunderbird decided to eliminate the Mail Toolbar altogether. What an unfortunate decision. Give us back our Mail Toolbar!'

Is there anywhere to get actual support for Thunderbird? I have no answers to my problem - can't receive e-mails still for a month now. Hoping not to have to change to a different e-mail software.

Thunderbird updated on my system today.....ever since that it will not connect to my gmail account I get a popup and when i click on next i get an error messaging saying

Google 400. That's an error.

"The server can not process the request because it is malformed. It should not be retried. That's all we know"

Everything was completely fine up until this update!

Thundebird is an e-mail client i.e. send and receive mail over the internet.

Over that last decade or so Thunderbird has been making endless upgrades adding pointless additions like Web browsing.

A few days ago I deleted an email account after which, when I re-opened Thunderbird to send an e-mail (i.e. from an E_MAIL client), it searched for the deleted account couldn't find it (gee I wonder why) and then for an "unknown" reason couldn't send an e-mail.

In fact, merely deleting an account has rendered Thunderbird a useless piece of garbage. (Oh sorry, I can still search the internet although I still don't know why I'd use Thunderbird for that?)

So, I looked for help (using a web browser not an email client) on the internet and the only (useless) help was from 2014. (So it's an ongoing fault for a decade.)

My question is this: Why would Thunderbird spend the last decade programming pointless upgrades when you haven't even got to the level of being able to add and delete accounts, send and receive e-mails with YOUR EMAIL CLIENT?

My recommendation is:

Keep the current version of Thundebird as "Thunderbird Plus" (a multifunctional e-mail client that looks impressive and does everything other than sending and receiving e-mails)

AND

Create a new Version called "Thunderbird" that can be used as an e-mail client (that can actually add and delete e-mail accounts, send and receive e-mails that is designed for people who want an e-mail client and not a hobby tool to while away the hours on pointless activities superfluous to an e-mail client.

OR

Before adding another pointless upgrade to the current version, fix it so it functions as an e-mail client (unless you'd prefer to retain a major flaw for another decade.)

If this upsets your "free" sensibilities, consider: There's no point in creating something, even for free, if it simply cannot meet its primary function. Thunderbird version one is better than what is provided today (that's why I started using it). Well done the original designers.

Just was updated to Thunderbird Supernova. Now when I perform a search with the unified toolbar I get a list of results, but anytime I select one of the results a new tab is open with a Blank message.

I've re-indexed my emails as per : https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/rebuilding-global-database but that hasn't helped.

Anyone else having this problem and found a solution? The only work around I have so far is to use the Ctrl-Shift-F which works, but is a little slower.

Thanks, Robert

I have message threads that contain messages that are not part of the thread. I don't know how they got linked into the same thread, so are many months apart. Some times I find more than one thread in which a series of messages occur. Any ideas why that may have happened?

I would like to correct the threading but can find no way to edit threads to remove message or to break threads. Is there a way to edit threads?

This is NOT Thunderbird but a whole new program and it's terrible!

Something this dramatic is NOT AN UPDATE!

It's very poor configuration and does not function anything close to what was before.

SOOOO MANY THINGS ARE WRONG AND DON'T WORK RIGHT.

The older version would be an IMPROVEMENT to this set up!

Please don't cop an attitude like we don't know. WE DO KNOW!

This is NOT BETTER.

PLEASE RESTORE THE OLDER VERSION AND LET US CHOOSE!

i SO REGRET THAT ID ALLOWED THIS, HAVING TRUSTED YOU.

I am just aghast at both the GUI and inevitably irrelevant answers that I keep encountering as I try Thunderbird. In the latest nightmare, I not only can't find any TRASH or DISCARDED folder, ALL the folders have disappeared except for the inbox. Every single icon is useless when expanded, every link is useless, every single menu, tool and setting is useless, every single search within your menu, and every single reply to every single user in every single one of your 4000 suggested articles is useless ... and impossibly irrelevant.

It's like not one person at Thunderbird actually reads one single word of one single user. Heck, maybe that's true. Maybe all the responses are provided by Thunderbird computers.

This particular layout nightmare follows the experience of finding that, when all the folders used to be displayed, there was absolutely no way to perform the simple act of, you know, like, WRITING AN E-MAIL. As I waded through dozens of web pages, both in and out of your Support, I found absolutely NOTHING of the slightest attempt to actually furnish that information or reply. I'm really good at finding info on the net, and it took me almost 30 minutes and dozens of keyword combos before I got that simple info .. and not from you people, either.

How is it possible to make anything this simple and important so impossible?

I have been trying to use Paypal to donate to Thunderbird. It just keeps giving error message "something went wrong" The Contact Us link on the Donations page didnt work either so I had to fiddle around getting to this page. Also sent question to an Admin. Very frustrating

Who wants to join me in an accessibility law suit against Mozilla and Thunderbird? The latest version of TBird is unusable.

Put the Menu bar back at the top. Allow us to globally turn off 'sort treads into conversations' and make it the default. This is not a texting app. Stop forcing changes on us. We don't want them.

Fix the tool bar and Search Bar so it works like it did for the previous decade.

Do the developers track crap from the sidewalk into their offices by Fisherman's Warf so they think crap is the new form of coding. Just code Thunderbird into a pile of crap.

Mozilla et al only gives lip service to accessibility.

Right then, about a week ago Thunderbird updated from 115.2.2 to 115.2.3.

I use TB to manage my Gmail, Hotmail and business emails. Has worked well, until this new update.

I began immediately receiving a pop-up regarding my Hotmail account. Sometimes the pop-up flashes for a few seconds, other times it stays on the screen.

https://login.microsoftonline.com/common/oauth2/v2.0/authorize?response_type=code&client_id=9e5f94bc-e8a4-4e73-b8be-63364c29d753&redirect_uri=https%3A%2F%2Flocalhost&scope=https%3A%2F%2Foutlook.office365.com%2FIMAP.AccessAsUser.All+https%3A%2F%2Foutlook.office365.com%2FPOP.AccessAsUser.All+https%3A%2F%2Foutlook.office365.com%2FSMTP.Send+offline_access&login_hint=XXXX%40hotmail.com

• The XXXX is my email name removed.

The pop-up is mostly blank except for a text box at the very top with a long string of characters. Above that it states, 'Enter credentials for XXXX@hotmail.com at Outlook.Office365.com'. I can't figure out if it wants me to enter the string of characters somewhere on Outlook or if I am supposed to copy something from Outlook and paste it into the text box. Moreover, I cannot seem to find anything online to assist.

The problem is emails from Outlook are not downloading to TB. My last downloaded email was on 11.09.23 and there are new messages in my Outlook.

Ideas?