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Hi,

About a month ago I accidentally activated the "Delete all but the most recent 2000 messages" option for one of my mail account in Thunderbird (15.10.1 (64-bit) on a MacBook Air). Luckily our local support were able to restore the affected folders. BUT - every time I opened the restored folders in Thunderbird, all the restored messages would disappear again. Correspondingly, the support team can see at this time large numbers of messages being deleted.

I've tried to delete the affected mail account from Thunderbird - didn't help. I've hidden my profile and started Thunderbird from scratch, set up the mail account again (so there should have been no leftover information from any previous instance of the account) - didn't help. I can see that whenever I open a folder for the first time, Thunderbird says "Compacting" - this is even though I have "Always ask before compacting" set. Even after I turn off automatic compacting for space saving >20MB, Thunderbird still compacts when it first sees a folder.

I have verified this behaviour by connecting to the same mail server using alpine - I see messages flagged for deletion in the restored folder; as soon as Thunderbird touches the folder, they disappear (even though no compacting should be happening and I should be prompted before it does, see above). Conversely, if I remove the "to delete" mark from the messages using alpine and then open a folder in Thunderbird, the messages are visible there.

From my understanding of what Thunderbird should be doing when compacting (or rather when not compacting), I would say the behaviours I've seen are rather significant bugs. But if I've misunderstood and there is some other way to stop Thunderbird from purging messages marked for deletion, I would be grateful for any advice.

Many thanks in advance for your help.

Bug forever (years, versions, reinstallations).

Failure by filters whose action is to DELETE. As stated in subject. Uncomplicated.

Other filters work (they distribute msgs into specified folders).

I have had a few emails that did not show up in the inbox listing, so the message count at the top indicated more messages than were listed. Doing a search showed them, and by moving them from the search results to another folder, and then re-searching and moving them back, caused most of them to appear. But not all - I still have a message count of 20, but only 19 listed, see photo 1. Photo 2 shows the hidden email (from Barry Chandler). So the email is there, it's just not visible!

For a few weeks I have had a new problem on my new Windows 11 Lenovo laptop, and also on my wife's older Dell laptop. We have been using Thunderbird for years without major problems. I loaded the latest version of Thunderbird on my new laptop and it seemed to work ok at first. Now I have a problem with intermittent failure to send normal emails on Thunderbird. My wife has noticed the same problem on her laptop Windows 11. I asked iPrimus support (who are supposed to support Hotkey) but they say it is not their problem but Thunderbird's. We RECEIVE emails ok, and sometimes pressing SEND will work immediately, sometimes on the second press, and sometimes not at all. This generates a message "-- Unable to authenticate Outgoing Server (SMTP), smtp.hotkey.net.au -- Check password and verify authentification method in Account settings/Outgoing server SMTP" We both use Trend virus protection.

Account name: mail.hotkey.net.au Outgoing Server: smtp.hotkey.net.au Server Settings: Server name pop.hotkey.net.au

                             User name is my email address

I have an email account with IONOS and my wife has an account. We have had these accounts for several years. Recently my wife can not send email. We are configured the same and I do not have a problem. Server: smtp.ionos.com Port: 587 (tried others at IONOS support request) Security STARTTLS Authentication: Normal password. When she tries to send or forward with a simple text (one letter or larger, it does not seem to matter). She gets the following reply: "Sending of the message failed. An error occurred while sending mail. The mail server responded: Transaction failed Reject due to policy restrictions. For explanation visit https://www.ionos.com/help/index.php?id=2425&ip=198.177.53.191&c=hd&r=0MQ4Bx-1rqmFh0x4l-00ErW3. Please check the message and try again." When trying to go to that web page, it does not exist. I have gone to IONOS support and we have both looked at the configuration and can see no differences between my set-up and hers. I have deleted all email address from her machine and reloaded Thunderbird (115.9.0), restarted her machine and added back her email. Same results, she can receive but not send. If she uses her phone, it works, and if you go to the IONOS web site and use there service it works. I'm at my wits end and can not figure it out. I have also opened an incident with the IONOS Postmaster, which I think is their second level support. Please help.

1. Often TB won't show new message, it'll list a number of new message, maybe I can actually scroll down & view a few of them, but quite often, I'll try to scroll down and can't see that new message that TB indicates exists. Or I have to click on an old message, then try again, click on another message I've already viewed then scroll down to where the new message is. This morning, tried both several times, still couldn't see the new message that TB insists is there.

2. At one time, when you opened TB, you were automatically taken to the end of all the messages in your inbox or if you fllter emails to folders, to the end of messages in that particular folder. No more, you have to scroll down to the end. Why? It's a waste of time for me to do that and as far as I know, TB places no limit on the number of emails in an inbox so . . . why was that changed? Because it was user friendly?

In my search I noticed that there was one TB user who was so upset he/she/they wanted to return to v. 102. I wonder how many people, seeing the response, also have returned to a previous version. I know I'm really tired of getting additional bells & whistles i don't use, changes to what you see that don't help me at all, plus making using TB more of a hassle--see above. Please fix the above problems. If it's not fixed in the next upgrade--which I'm hesitant to install given the result of the last few upgrades that introduced the above hassles--then I'll probably go back to an older version too.

Hello My Thunderbird failed pop access to my Gmail account, at beginning of month. Any try to fix, and even change from pop to imap don't work. I get the windows as shown i images as result. I don't like see oauth/legacy/consent in the URL. - Change setting in Google from pop to imap - Cookie setting updated as forum suggest - JavaScript true as forum suggest

Any hint on forwarding step? Thanks Lars Granath

Last week, sometime, I received ALL the emails, that have come into my "mailbox", from about the time I purchased my latest computer, several years ago. There must be hundreds, if not thousands, of the little critters. All arranged alphabetically, starting with the letter "a". So far, the ONLY solution I've found from "Thunderbird Help", is to 1. Open inbox 2. Select [left click] one of the repeated emails. 3. This high lights the email in BLUE. 4. Select BOTH "CONTROL & A" KEYS at the same time. 5. This highlights the WHOLE PRESENT page of emails in BLUE. 6. The instructions then say to press the "DELETE" key. 7. Question is- IF I PRESS THE "DELETE" key, will that just delete the emails on this page, OR delete EVERY email in my entire "inbox"? The only OTHER remedy I've tried, is to send the unwanted emails, ONE at a time, to the "TRASH" folder, then empty the "TRASH" folder, when I get 10-15 emails in it. That could take a VERY long time. Awaiting your suggestion[s]-Joel Payne P.S. Might this happen again? If so, it may be time to go back to Carrier Pigeons.

Hi

I am running Thunderbird on WIndows 10. I have eight different email accounts, but only one profile.

This morning on startup, all accounts and folders were gone and the "open your account" tab was open.

After several hours of frantic searching on the net, I took the most recent profile "prefs-9" and used it to overwrite "prefs.js" This brought back all my local folders and saved emails.

However, the email accounts used to be Wotsit@gmail followed by Inbox, Sent, Draft etc. Now the first account name has been moved, leaving behind its old Inbox, Sent etc with the correct email count but nothing at all in the right hand pane. The account header has re-appeared amongst other account headers but with nothing in the Inbox, Sent etc.

What I need to do is make all the emails visible in the "headerless" section, and return the correct header above them.

Here is what it sort of looks like -

Inbox (3) 2100 Sent 998 Drafts

Then further down after other accounts - Wotsit@gmail.com Inbox Sent Drafts

How can I move the Wotsit header back to where it should be?

I really appreciate the help you folks offer, and the time you put in helping us mere mortals!

When I answer an email TB adds Re: (or Fwd: ) in the subject line which I have laways found annoying. My previous email client allwed me not to have this happen. Is it possible to stop this?

It is possible I have asked this previously, but if so, I cannot find this and have received no replies. My apologies if I have!

I am using the current version of Thunderbird, I have been noticing for awhile now that changes I make to my profiles (adding new email accounts or changing smtp servers) are not being saved. In looking at my profile folder. I noticed several prefs-xx.js file but no prefs.js file. The last pref-xx file I have is from 2022 and it stopped at prefs-32. My question where did the prefs.js file go and how do I get it back.

Thanks Dan

I have latest Thunderbird version (115.9.0 64bit) on fully patched Ubuntu 22.04.4 LTS.

I'm trying to get it to display Day-of-Week for old messages - is this possible? I have tried all sorts of combination as detailed HERE to no avail.

I'd like concise instructions on how to do this (if it can be done). I do not believe trying a new profile will work as I need to test this for old messages - at least for messages older than a week.

From the link above, I can the Day-of-Week to work for the current week - but that only displays the day and time. What I'm after is as shown in the attached Outlook screenshot. Also see the closest I can get that to match in the Thunderbird screenshot.

Hello. I have my outlook.com account set up in Thunderbird 115.10.1. When I delete emails in Thunderbird from my inbox, they disappear and they go to the Deleted folder in Thunderbird as they should, but they aren't deleted on the Outlook server. I can still see them in my inbox if I use my Outlook app on my phone. I must delete them using my phone.

If I delete an email on my Outlook app on my phone, they disappear immediately in Thunderbird, which is correct. In other words, it works correctly if I delete from my phone, but not from Thunderbird.

My server settings are: Server Type: IMAP Mail Server Server Name: outlook.office365.com Port: 993 Connection security: SSL/TLS Authentication method: OAuth2 When I delete a message: Move it to this folder: Deleted on <myaccount>@outlook.com

Can anyone help? Thanks!

'just added 2nd gmail address to Thunderbird. Suddenly getting verification requests. I go through that process then asked for phone # for verification code only to be told the number already used too many times . Now what?

(TLDR; Questions in bold at the bottom)

I currently have just a desktop Mac. I recently switched from Apple Mail to Thunderbird to read three email accounts: iCloud, gmail & a university account. I had previously used rules at the server level on my iCloud account, and this caused hella pain during the migration, including some zombie rules that I think I have isolated to Thunderbird. I deleted the rules from iCloud, removed the iCloud account from Thunderbird, restarted and then re-added it to Thunderbird. So far, so good, although I had to resubscribe to the draft, junk and trash folders (all other than the inbox) for some reason.

I have decided to experiment with not using rules or folders at all, and instead use local saved searches in Thunderbird. This will make my life easier when I get a laptop, which is inevitable. Two machines reading the same IMAP emails with rules can get weird.

Can I copy/paste existing saved search folders, so I can do similar searches just by making minor changes to the search terms? If so, how?

Can I copy/paste or save saved search folders, so I can do the same searches on a different Mac, without painstakingly recreating all the search terms? If so, how?

Can I create a saved search folder that contains all the messages not found in any OTHER saved search folder? If so, how?

I am using TBird v115.10.1 and I need to be able to EXPORT my contacts to an Excel .CSV file. My version of TBird does not offer any customisation of the Export function.

hi all guys ... I'm experiencing several issues with oauth2 authentication, and I never had any issue before February the 2024 ... at the beginning the only account I have was not working was a microsoft account, so I thought it was "because of microsoft restriction"

but now, little by little, all my accounts requiring oauth2 authentication are failing, and I don't know were to check ...

I do NOT have any httpd/apache server running on localhost

I already tried changing things like general.useragent.compatMode.firefox or network.protocol-handler.warn-external.http network.protocol-handler.warn-external.https

I also created another blank profile ... but again ... not way to make it works ...

cookies are permitted ... javascript is enabled ...

the result is always the same ... a blank page when I try to do any oauth2 authentication ...

if I manually copy/paste that link in Firefox/Chrome it perfectly works, so it's not a network connection issue ...

from what I can understand, it seems to be related to the "built-in browser" in thunderbird, that for some reason does not work "as expected" ... If I try to click on any link for example in the settings page

like the "learn more" link of this option Send web sites a “Do Not Track” signal that you don’t want to be tracked "learn more" thunderbird does NOT show anything ...

something is broken, and I can NOT understand what it is ...

is there anyone with some good advices?

please let me know

thanks in advance

Stefano

I have 4 accounts with different names but all with the same domain name (name1@samedomain.com, name2@samedomain.com ...). The first one set up perfectly and works. The 2nd and the 3rd can't retrieve mail from the server (didn't try the 4th yet). The SSL ports are the same for all. The passwords happen to be the same for all. (I haven't tried changing the 2nd and 3rd passwords as that seems unlikely to be the problem.) When initially setting up the 2nd or the 3rd I get a "Sending of password for user name2@samedomain.com did not succeed. Mail server pop.yyy.zzz responded: [AUTH Authentification failed." I've checked the passwords on both the client and the server ends multiple times and they are the same. Then, of course, periodically I get a pop-up with "Login to server pop.xxx.yyy with username name2@samedomain.com failed. When I go to the Account Settings screen with the 3 accounts and click on each Server Settings one after another, the only thing that changes is the User Name, yet the first account receives mail and the other 2 don't so everything is correctly set up. As an aside, I CAN SEND emails from the 2nd and 3rd accounts but can only RECEIVE and SEND from the 1st. Any help appreciated.

All of a sudden, over 6 months of my "deleted" items dropped off. I like to keep up to 9 months items for history reference if needed. Is this an automatic thing, or if, can it be adjusted by settings?