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I am writing to let the community know that, at least in my case, the guidance from TB 1/2024 KB article on Qauth2, [and linked Microsoft article], didn't solve the odd password behavior that began around January, 2024, between TB and my Microsoft hotmail account--which had worked perfectly with TB for maybe 10 years?

Beginning in January I typically received an error message that SMTP server login failed; please enter password. But after fixing that as per the KB article (first trying to maintain normal password, then when that wouldn't solve it, turning on 2FA, switching to Qauth2 with cookies enabled), it turned out for me that with Qauth2 and 2FA, I could send mail okay but then the Outlook.IMAP server would not connect so receiving emails stopped. Several times after this failure I tried switching back to normal password AND turn OFF 2fa in order to get Outlook.IMAP to reeive email...but then SMTP would keep requesting passwords, and every day or two i'd get a repeated request to reenter the Imap server password for receivfing also.

The only stable fix I found after weeks of livign with this and debating abandonment of TB came when I turned 2FA back on, requested an app password from my Microsoft Account, changed TB Server settings back to Normal password for SMTP and Outlook.Imap, and then entered the App password when prompted by TB for to eonnect with server for receiving and sending.

This has worked fine and apparently been stable, without new reqauests to me for passwords, for 2 days, whereas all other fixes in past couple months have not lasted longer than a day or less before TB requests again that I enter a password to connect with my hotmail account. (All through this my gmail connection via TB ahas remained flawless, thought I did get a request for a gmail app password, which I obtained and entered--just once and all has since been fine).

I don't know why several careful step by step attempts to do everything in Mozilla's Thunderbird KB and Microsoft articles suggested didn't work--for a residential Microsoft account, whether I tried to follow guideance for those experiencing SMTP problem only, or the Imap server connection generally.

My only guess about why my Win 10 desktop installation is different? I have Outlook for Android running on two or 3 different Android devices also, perhaps that complicated things?  I also used to have a mirrored account (in other words, name@hotmail.com is my main account, but I also had a 2nd "nickename" acct with the same name, set up as name@outlook. com.  

(But I removed that nicknamed acct in case it was causing any of my authentication problems; made no difference. )

A bit of an odd request, I know, but I'm trying to send encrypted email from Thunderbird such that only the recipient, and not the sender (me) can access the message once it has been sent. I direct Thunderbird not to save a copy in the "Sent" folder when I do this, but Thunderbird still encrypts the message such that my personal key can decrypt it. Is it possible to send a message that can only be decrypted with one key? I have access to the recipient's private key, if that helps.

All the gmail entries & passwords deleted, remaining email passwords replaced, as of this morning.

I replaced them, and then so did they. I just yesterday deleted my online life... I'm sure just a coincidence.

Here's half of one they used: M.C555_BAY.0.U.-Co2UA6qeq4JOFgsvOCkdA**pHYS5XqT3TfRXLZAdnUxGM361xXXF0iCTeAaY5pXNyRoEu7KvIh3*uCkYXNAKRvbL7UnBYVnODYaRQ8e5lPvftncJgK1yNc9TzeqTMW1BCwqdeBAjmbGg

Suggestions? (Other than accept the dark side & sell your soul)

A while ago my long-time hotmail account stopped working on two computer with windows 10 and one with windows 11. Last night, I looked up an article that said I have to use Oauth2 instead of normal pw. I made that change on the windows 11 machine and a popup occurred that wanted the number from the google authenticator on my phone. I gave it that and it checks mail now just fine.

This morning I went to one of the Windows 10 machines and did exactly the same. I tried some different server names online and tried some, but after a while I started getting a little window that asked my email address and pw. I put my hotmail address in and got this message:

Microsoft Accounts or personal email addresses don’t work here. Make sure you enter your work or school account (e.g. user@contoso.com). If you want to reset a Microsoft Account password, click here.

Now this is the very same hotmail email that worked on windows 11 with the same server settings last night. It still works.

Now, on the windows 10 machine with those same settings, I get the blank extra window. The extra window appears, does not populate, and disappeared.

It is: https://login.microsoftonline.com/common/oauth2/v2.0/authorize?response_type=code&client_id=9e5f94bc-e8a4-4e73-b8be-63364c29d753&redirect_uri=https%3A%2F%2Flocalhost&scope=https%3A%2F%2Foutlook.office365.com%2FIMAP.AccessAsUser.All+https%3A%2F%2Foutlook.office365.com%2FPOP.AccessAsUser.All+https%3A%2F%2Foutlook.office365.com%2FSMTP.Send+offline_access&login_hint=redacted@hotmail.com

I had no opportunity to do what worked on the windows 11 machine just last night. I cannot check mail on hotmail on this windows 10 pc. I took all the updates available to Thunderbird and firefox. TB is 115.11.1

I'm stopped. Why would it work on one pc and not another? Oauth2 on the windows 11 asked for authenticator. On the windows 10 it never asks.

Hi

I recently changed my email address from johnbugler@phonecoop.coop to johnbugler03@gmail.com.

I receive Thunderbird 'flyers', and I want to ensure that they're sent to johnbugler03@gmail.com. If it hasn't been done already, please change my email address to johnbugler03@gmail.com.

Thanks and regards

John Bugler