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The I-do-not-like-Firefox-29-layout topic

(For Forum Moderators: Please read /forums/forum-moderators/710264?last=59300) Moderators, please read first before closing/removing this topic right away? To those want… (Lesen Sie mehr)

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Moderators, please read first before closing/removing this topic right away?
To those wanting to react here on this topic: please, also read ;)
Since my original posting https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/997009 was closed because one of the moderators felt it was going off-topic (although it was red a lot and had 131 "have-this-problem" in just a few days), here a kind of re-opening but on-topic.
Why? Because I feel we have the right to express our feelings on this major change. And publicly there is actually only this forum where that can be done on the Mozilla.org domain.
Sure, the change is there and we have to live with it (if we choose to). But that doesn't mean we can not have our voice here because after many, many years of supporting FF with our use, we suddenly are facing a layout we were always running away from.
So yes, that can cause ranting and so on (within the forum rules of course) because people feel strongly about there beloved browser.
(edit rules link note the whole topic is ordinarily outside the scope of the forum ... Posts in the Mozilla support forum must be either questions about the use of Firefox, ... Users who post about things other than Mozilla support will be directed to an alternative discussion place .... . ~J99)

Plus this way you can centralize all the negatives here instead of a lot of separate postings about the same subject ;)
To the people reacting here in this topic: there is only 1 real way to let Mozilla itself know how you feel on the new lay out and that is not through this forum. The way is to go to https://input.mozilla.org/feedback/ and let it know there.
edit You need to use a supported Firefox to post Feedback so that will soon not be possible from Fx28 2nd edit. I was wrong feedback works with any version of Fiefpx now~J99

And I think when that is done in normal words (so no f*ck you rants and so on) and suggestions, then maybe, just maybe, it has some effect.
Also, there is an Mozilla support page with info on how to get the "old look" back, see How to make the new Firefox look like the old FirefoxBut it will only partly restore the old look, certain FF29 things can not be changed.

And yes, I myself am back to Firefox 28 which is not supported or suggested by Mozilla because it has things (bugs and security) that are not fixed in it. (Edit Please use Official downloads if you must downgrade links in Install an older version of Firefox and the growing list of exploits you will open yourself up to is listed here: https://www.mozilla.org/security/known-vulnerabilities/firefox.html ~J99)

I am not suggesting or advertising to others to do the same. It is a risk I am willing to take and only say it is an option.
edit My reason to go back to FF 28 is because that version still has the intuitive feel and look Firefox one was praised for. With a logical lay out and a good way to simply customize it (also in about:config).
For those who say/think "Come one man, stop whining! Grow up and just accept that Firefox has to go with its time!", to them I say: nope ;)

First edit Modified May 10, 2014 7:54:58 PM BST by John99
2nd: re feedback

Gefragt von meegja vor 6 Jahren

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FF 29 sometimes will not start. Popup with an error message.

Hi. With FF 29, I frequently get a popup message saying that "Firefox is already running" and I have to kill that process and restart the browser under XP. Is anyone else… (Lesen Sie mehr)

Hi.

With FF 29, I frequently get a popup message saying that "Firefox is already running" and I have to kill that process and restart the browser under XP. Is anyone else experiencing this problem?

Thanks.

Gefragt von Compumind vor 6 Jahren

Beantwortet von John99 vor 6 Jahren

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Firefox 30 won't start, hangs after closing (Bug1004476)

Hello, everyone! I've filed a bug report here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1004476 The problem is that after installing Firefox 29 with no profile at all… (Lesen Sie mehr)

Hello, everyone!

I've filed a bug report here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1004476 The problem is that after installing Firefox 29 with no profile at all and installing any addon that requires a browser restart (NoScript for e.g.) Firefox restarts OK, but after closing it and trying to open again I get a message: "Firefox is already running". I can see in the Task Manager that there is already Firefox running in the background. I've found several people complaining about this issue. Here: http://forums.informaction.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=19612 And here: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=2825639

Thank you in advance

Modified May 13, 2014 11:01:46 PM BST by John99


2nd Update. (Comment by a moderator)
Engineers are working on issues that have been identified.
The known issues are problems with Firefox hanging on closedown resulting in Firefox not restarting unless the hung process is killed.

Workaround ensure Firefox is NOT set to clear History on Close down
Use NewButton New Fx Menu → Preferences → |Privacy| Firefox will: [Remember History v ]
See also my post downthread /questions/997918?page=2#answer-572501 ~J99

 Modified June 5, 2014 12:26:07 AM BST by John99

3rd Update

A fix is now on the Beta Channel Fx30b8 hopefully in a couple of weeks that will be on everyone's Release of Firefox30.

Gefragt von TheExplorer vor 6 Jahren

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high CPU usage

after updating to firefox 29 and then 29.0.1, the cpu usage that firefox are using are insane, it ranges between 50%-100% cpu usage. and it happens even on normal non fla… (Lesen Sie mehr)

after updating to firefox 29 and then 29.0.1, the cpu usage that firefox are using are insane,

it ranges between 50%-100% cpu usage.

and it happens even on normal non flash tab,

besides even if the site is using flash, i am using flash block and adblock plus,

so anykind of flash material wont play or uses cpu.

please fix this ASAP, because firefox has now gone from useable to resource hog,

oh and i don't like the new look, because firefox has become more similar to chrome on User interface,

and i don't use chrome, because i don't like the UI, and now firefox tried to be chrome twin ?

i think that's all, thanks in advance.

edit : fixed some typo

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Why can't I block google's cookies? Everytime I select their domain to be blocked, their cookies STILL show up when I check 'Show Cookies.' Not cool..

I've done -both- selecting & blocking the domain name of Google for prefs, etc from it's website AND using the Firefox security options page and typing in Google's d… (Lesen Sie mehr)

I've done -both- selecting & blocking the domain name of Google for prefs, etc from it's website AND using the Firefox security options page and typing in Google's domain name then selecting it to remove its cookies. But every time I check the "Show Cookies" tab, google is STILL there in the cookie list even after I've done all this stuff. What must I do, what secret domain name must I type to ensure Google doesn't track me?

I'm already using DuckDuckGo as my sole search engine so there is NO reason why google should be able to attach cookies to me as I am NOT USING GOOGLE. Please help.

Thank You! EarthGrrl

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Where's the refresh icon and tabs difficult to distinguish

I use the refresh icon fairly often and now it's gone. Not in the Customize Menu or anywhere else. The tabs at the top are difficult to read, they all blend together in o… (Lesen Sie mehr)

I use the refresh icon fairly often and now it's gone. Not in the Customize Menu or anywhere else.

The tabs at the top are difficult to read, they all blend together in one long line, is there a way to better differentiate them one from another?

I looked at the Classic Theme Restorer, will that allow me to put FF back to the way it was yesterday? What does beta mean?

Gefragt von BernadineAD vor 6 Jahren

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Can color be added back to inactive tabs?

On the new version of Firefox the inactive tabs are clear and the writing in them almost disappears against my rotating backgrounds. Can the Mozilla team add some color b… (Lesen Sie mehr)

On the new version of Firefox the inactive tabs are clear and the writing in them almost disappears against my rotating backgrounds. Can the Mozilla team add some color back to the inactive tabs? I'd rather not have to install an add-on that mimics previous versions where the tabs had color. Thanks.

Gefragt von hlflqd vor 6 Jahren

Beantwortet von jscher2000 vor 6 Jahren

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I want to hide the icons in the bookmarks toolbar.

In Version 29 of FireFox the "folder" or "link" icons of the bookmark toolbar are stuck VISIBLE. I simply wish to hide/delete the icon, showing only the text as I had bef… (Lesen Sie mehr)

In Version 29 of FireFox the "folder" or "link" icons of the bookmark toolbar are stuck VISIBLE.

I simply wish to hide/delete the icon, showing only the text as I had before. The icons are basically meaningless and I don't need them to be visible.

Please suggest the correct path for adjusting this.

Thx.

--Bry.

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With Firefox 29 on Ubuntu (32 bit) the rendering is wrong on my website. It's fine in Windows Firefox though.

I am using Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and Windows 7 Pro, Firefox 29. The problem only affects my home page, no other pages. It never rendered like this before Firefox 29 for Linu… (Lesen Sie mehr)

I am using Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and Windows 7 Pro, Firefox 29. The problem only affects my home page, no other pages. It never rendered like this before Firefox 29 for Linux. My website is http://emblemagic.com

If anyone can see what the problem is, I would be very grateful, as I don't want my Linux Firefox users to see an unprofessional looking page.

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default 29.0 sucks and now crying with agony and despair.

im not sure i can live with this. i need my original firefox back. this version is no good. how do i get the previous theme with my orange firefox button and grey top ? … (Lesen Sie mehr)

im not sure i can live with this. i need my original firefox back. this version is no good. how do i get the previous theme with my orange firefox button and grey top ?

im am positive that i did not say to update. it just did it on its own. now its gay blue. whats worse is there is a gradient into the gay blue. horrible and i need help to get rid of it.

it wouldve made more sense to put the icons on the left. and leave the search on the right where it belongs.

if i redownload 28, how do i stop it from updating again?

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Beantwortet von sparxx vor 6 Jahren

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How can I put the Tabs back below the navigation bar? I immensely do NOT like the navigation bar under the Tabs. Thanks.

Versions prior to 29 allow me to about:config to put Tabs below the navigation bar. Now this configuration no longer works. It is HUGELY annoying!! How can I configure th… (Lesen Sie mehr)

Versions prior to 29 allow me to about:config to put Tabs below the navigation bar. Now this configuration no longer works. It is HUGELY annoying!!

How can I configure the Tabs back where they are most useful, below the navigation bar?

Thank you.

asked and a "solution" was posted - locking this thread to keep it from going further off-topic - Ed

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my firefox keeps crashing every half hour more or less...I have reported it to no avail

Problem signature: Problem Event Name: APPCRASH Application Name: firefox.exe Application Version: 29.0.1.5239 Application Timestamp: 5369959a Fault Module Name: Sta… (Lesen Sie mehr)

Problem signature:

 Problem Event Name:	APPCRASH
 Application Name:	firefox.exe
 Application Version:	29.0.1.5239
 Application Timestamp:	5369959a
 Fault Module Name:	StackHash_c210
 Fault Module Version:	6.1.7601.18247
 Fault Module Timestamp:	521ea8e7
 Exception Code:	c0000374
 Exception Offset:	000ce753
 OS Version:	6.1.7601.2.1.0.768.3
 Locale ID:	1033
 Additional Information 1:	c210
 Additional Information 2:	c21007aa60b4930c4615ca8b3832352b
 Additional Information 3:	a689
 Additional Information 4:	a689e4a28dddee6d20cc754df088c6d2

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(1) Menu Bar & background/unused tabs changed to same Blue color making navigating difficult. Help to change back?

Running XP with SP3 & updates. Installed newest Firefox update 29 & have 2 new problems. (1) Menu Bar & background/unused tabs changed to same Blue color ma… (Lesen Sie mehr)

Running XP with SP3 & updates.

Installed newest Firefox update 29 & have 2 new problems.

(1) Menu Bar & background/unused tabs changed to same Blue color making navigating difficult. Any help on how to change them back? (2) Firefox now runs incredibly slow. ddbob

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How do I move the Bookmarks Toolbar above the tabs in 29.0?

Before the update, I was able to use Stylish to get this functionality. However, something is broken with how -moz-box-ordinal-group functions. The only valid entries ar… (Lesen Sie mehr)

Before the update, I was able to use Stylish to get this functionality. However, something is broken with how -moz-box-ordinal-group functions. The only valid entries are 0 (places it above the Menu Bar) or !0 (places it at the very bottom).

Neither of those two places are what I desire. Here is what I'm aiming for, from top to bottom:

Menu Bar
Bookmarks Toolbar
Tabs
Address Bar

See this Stylish for a picture of what I used to have:
http://userstyles.org/styles/46274/firefox-4-bookmarks-toolbar-above-tabs-enhanced

So, my question here is, how can I restore this functionality? Having bookmarks below the address bar does not follow logic, in my mind. And this "now things are easy to customize how you want it!" thing that Australis is supposed to allow... doesn't let me customize it how I want it.

Any help would be appreciated, be it a config setting, a plugin, or some CSS I can plug into Stylish.

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How to move address bar (navigation bar) to title bar in Firefox 29?

How to move address bar (navigation bar) to title bar in Firefox 29? What I'm trying to achieve is to have only one bar visible in Firefox. New Firefox interface is a was… (Lesen Sie mehr)

How to move address bar (navigation bar) to title bar in Firefox 29?

What I'm trying to achieve is to have only one bar visible in Firefox. New Firefox interface is a waste of vertical screen space for me in its default configuration. Up to Firefox 28 I could drag and drop everything to title bar with additional adjustments in userChrome.css.

I tried to use https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/classicthemerestorer/ but it didn't work for me. I don't want older theme anyway, I just want the same amount of customization available.

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Firefox 29 no longer prints properly from the built in PDF viewer

I print several EBAY labels a day. Just upgraded to firefox 29 (not realizing really what had changed - now regretting) and the built in PDF viewer no longer prints prope… (Lesen Sie mehr)

I print several EBAY labels a day. Just upgraded to firefox 29 (not realizing really what had changed - now regretting) and the built in PDF viewer no longer prints properly. It shows the label fine on the screen, but when sending to the printer (I tried two different ones) it just prints out two blanks pages. I tried a number of different printer settings and as i mentioned two different printers. Can't get anything to print now except two blank pages. If I switch the application settings in firefox to use an external 3rd party PDF viewer (e.g. Adobe reader 11, PDF Viewer plus, etc) those work fine. However, the default built in PDF viewer clearly broke in this new version. A very disappointing launch for me as this is critical feature for my use. Yes, I have a work around, but the point (and new bug) is still valid.

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Can Firefox be configured to open most-recenlty-active Firefox window when you click a link in another application? Am using multiple profiles.

I think this is really a feature request, but I didn't see a forum for that. I used to use firefox almost exclusively, but switched to chrome when I started freelancing… (Lesen Sie mehr)

I think this is really a feature request, but I didn't see a forum for that. I used to use firefox almost exclusively, but switched to chrome when I started freelancing for a couple of different companies -- the identities feature of chrome really helps me keep my sanity by having a unique identity for each company. However, an issue has recently developed with chrome that made me switch back to firefox. The profiles feature in firefox seems to have gotten a lot better since I made the first switch, and I'm pretty happy with how it works ... with one exception:

With firefox, clicking on a link in a different application always opens in the default profile. With Chrome, it would always open in the browser window that was most recently active. This is a very intuitive behavior, as whatever I am doing in the other application (e.g. thunderbird, evernote, skype) is almost always related to whichever browser window I had opened last.

Any chance of this getting implemented? Or maybe there's already a way to do this? I found the following related topics, but neither helped with this question:

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/981608?esab=a&as=aaq https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/983341?esab=a&as=aaq

Gefragt von violetmoz vor 6 Jahren

Beantwortet von the-edmeister vor 6 Jahren

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Firefox 29 screw up - Please consider USERS How to fix this???

I often get fed up with firefox, the only reason I stay with it is because of the 3rd party plugins, but this is a step too far. I am so seriously pissed off with Mozilla… (Lesen Sie mehr)

I often get fed up with firefox, the only reason I stay with it is because of the 3rd party plugins, but this is a step too far.

I am so seriously pissed off with Mozilla Firefox, not just because of the new design but the complete lack of respect for your users.

I got a message saying that there was an important security update, it did NOT NOT NOT warn me that it intended to install a completely redesigned application.

Have you guys heard of change control management?

I am in the middle of working and I spend 15 hours a day online, now i have to figure out this AWFUL user interface.

I guess this is what you get when you have a bunch of amateurs developing software.

So what was it, did not one person in Mozilla figure NOT out that you need to tell users that an upgrade includes a serious change in UI or worse still did you know and think FFF..orget them we will just do it and tell them it is a security update.

Rather than creating this terrible user interface you should have focused on the biggest problem with Firefox MEMORY and CPU usage with the ability of users to figure out which tab is using memory or CPU,

If I had wanted a Google Chrome clone I would have installed Google Chrome, but I hate the Chrome interface. Do you not know that Google are the worst company in the world at designing a UI, their email is rubbish, the new adwords Keyword Planner should be used in schools and colleges as a "how NOT to design software"

What pisses me off is that you have the arrogance to think that you can just bulldoze over your userbase. If I were local I would come to your office ask which bright spark was in charge of this and punch them in the face.

I have seen others ask how to roll back and again in your ignorance you make pathetic excuses and lock the question, as you did with the guy here:

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/997424

well if you do that with me I will raise this on every blog related to Firefox. I wonder if there is any interest in creating a fork in the development?

I do not want to have to install an old version, I have a lot invested in my Firefox user interface which has been completely screwed up by this update. In addition to this I can't move the address bar and put it next to the menu and I can't move the tabs below the menus and toolbars.

You have also screwed up my colorful tabs which I need because of sight issues.

THIS IS MY DESKTOP do not DICTATE how I layout my screen!!

To call you complete F'ing Morons would not be enough!

Now if I roll back I am going to be facing nagware and security risks.

In future can you PLEASE respect your users by doing the following:

1. Do NOT install UI changes without informing the user and giving them a choice 2. ALWAYS include a feature to stick with the old UI 3. Allow users to stick with the old UI and still get REAL security updates.

I am so angry with you right now!

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hate the latest beta release, it's borked a bunch of stuff, how do I go back to the prior one?

It's total mess on Mavericks (OSX), the UI's a joke, not to mention plain broken in a few ways... Any idea how to get it back to the way I had it configured, if not possi… (Lesen Sie mehr)

It's total mess on Mavericks (OSX), the UI's a joke, not to mention plain broken in a few ways... Any idea how to get it back to the way I had it configured, if not possible, then I'd like to go back to the prior beta release.

Thank-you.

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Beantwortet von John99 vor 6 Jahren