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How to keep Bcc from one address to the next in T-Bird 60

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The latest version of THUNDERBIRD was automatically downloaded yesterday. The first time I used it to do my e-mails, I noticed a MAJOR change in the addressing section. With earlier versions, once you typed in a person's e-mail address, and pressed the ENTER key, the NEXT open line for additional e-mail addresses was the SAME type as the previous one (To:, Cc:, or Bcc:). Now I noticed that when sending an e-mail to multiple addresses, each time you are forced to change the mode (To:, Cc:, or Bcc:) Do you have any idea how annoying this is??? WHY would this feature be included?

Also, WHY does the cursor disappear many times when editing an text message? This is also very annoying & has been an ongoing problem with several previous releases of T-BIRD.

Finally, I do not understand WHY, when editing certain text of an existing e-mail, when the cursor is placed at the end or close to the end of a line of text, AND the END key is pressed, the included text is highlighted. Pressing the DELETE key then moves the undeleted portion of the text line to a line ABOVE where it first appeared. This is very strange, and also annoying.

Thank you.....

The latest version of THUNDERBIRD was automatically downloaded yesterday. The first time I used it to do my e-mails, I noticed a MAJOR change in the addressing section. With earlier versions, once you typed in a person's e-mail address, and pressed the ENTER key, the NEXT open line for additional e-mail addresses was the SAME type as the previous one (To:, Cc:, or Bcc:). Now I noticed that when sending an e-mail to multiple addresses, each time you are forced to change the mode (To:, Cc:, or Bcc:) Do you have any idea how annoying this is??? WHY would this feature be included? Also, WHY does the cursor disappear many times when editing an text message? This is also very annoying & has been an ongoing problem with several previous releases of T-BIRD. Finally, I do not understand WHY, when editing certain text of an existing e-mail, when the cursor is placed at the end or close to the end of a line of text, AND the END key is pressed, the included text is highlighted. Pressing the DELETE key then moves the undeleted portion of the text line to a line ABOVE where it first appeared. This is very strange, and also annoying. Thank you.....

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Matt. In a previous response from one of the techs, they mentioned something called an "MRC". Now, in your post, you mention RFC. I have no idea what these shorthand terms mean.

At the risk of being tiresome. RFC's are to the internet what ISO is to the world of industry. The big difference is ISO being an abbreviation is International Standards Organization sort of stands on it's own. The expanded version of RFC (Request For Comments) is actually more confusing that the abbreviation. But they are requests for comments by the internet engineering taskforce, who are charged with establishing the standards on which the internet runs. The standard used for IMAP is here https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3501 just in case you want to have a peek at what the boring underbelly looks like. There are probable a dozen such RFC's that govern mail and HTML. You mention being an old time computer user, so I am guessing tcp/ip is not a totally foreign term as it has been a part of networking for a very long time. This is a link to the transmission control protocol part of tcp/ip (note the 1981 date).

I went back to the reference to the add-on MRC Compose. It is the name of the add-on, I have no idea what MRC means to the guy that wrote the add-on and named it as such. https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/addon/mrc-compose/?src=ss

I am in no way a WINDOWS "genius". I was far more competent using Hollerith cards to program mainframe computers 50+ years ago.

Please I still remember picking up trays of cards and sorting them out.)

WHY can't I get a link to go back to Ver. 52.nnn which worked just fine, and leave it at that????? Thank you.

What locale version of Thunderbird are you using? One of the things missing from the troubleshooting information is the language (locale)

This thing you talk about is happening to you, but no one else can reproduce it. I don't think it is the sort of thing that would only appear on Windows 7 However try this. It will not hurt even if it fixes nothing and get back with that locale so I can give you a link to the correct language version of 54. Click the open folder button in the troubleshooting information. Close Thunderbird Delete the file session.json. Restart Thunderbird.

Note, I have also heard of malwarebytes causing some pretty funky things to happen. That is the always running product the anti virus thing not the download and run version which I used for many years as an excellent cleaner.

''Petri_Dish [[#answer-1175516|said]]'' <blockquote> Matt. In a previous response from one of the techs, they mentioned something called an "MRC". Now, in your post, you mention RFC. I have no idea what these shorthand terms mean. </blockquote> At the risk of being tiresome. RFC's are to the internet what ISO is to the world of industry. The big difference is ISO being an abbreviation is [https://www.iso.org/home.html International Standards Organization ]sort of stands on it's own. The expanded version of RFC (Request For Comments) is actually more confusing that the abbreviation. But they are requests for comments by the [https://ietf.org/ internet engineering taskforce], who are charged with establishing the standards on which the internet runs. The standard used for IMAP is here https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3501 just in case you want to have a peek at what the boring underbelly looks like. There are probable a dozen such RFC's that govern mail and HTML. You mention being an old time computer user, so I am guessing tcp/ip is not a totally foreign term as it has been a part of networking for a very long time. This is [https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc793 a link to the transmission control protocol] part of tcp/ip (note the 1981 date). I went back to the reference to the add-on MRC Compose. It is the name of the add-on, I have no idea what MRC means to the guy that wrote the add-on and named it as such. https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/addon/mrc-compose/?src=ss <blockquote> I am in no way a WINDOWS "genius". I was far more competent using Hollerith cards to program mainframe computers 50+ years ago. </blockquote> Please I still remember picking up trays of cards and sorting them out.) <blockquote> WHY can't I get a link to go back to Ver. 52.nnn which worked just fine, and leave it at that????? Thank you. </blockquote> What locale version of Thunderbird are you using? One of the things missing from the troubleshooting information is the language (locale) This thing you talk about is happening to you, but no one else can reproduce it. I don't think it is the sort of thing that would only appear on Windows 7 However try this. It will not hurt even if it fixes nothing and get back with that locale so I can give you a link to the correct language version of 54. Click the open folder button in the troubleshooting information. Close Thunderbird Delete the file session.json. Restart Thunderbird. Note, I have also heard of malwarebytes causing some pretty funky things to happen. That is the always running product the anti virus thing not the download and run version which I used for many years as an excellent cleaner.

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Hi Matt, Two things: The locale of which you request is Florida, USA English (or American, whichever you prefer.)

I did the steps that you asked, deleting the sessions.json file. Then I restarted T-BIRD. I have more than one e-mail address, so I attempted to send a test e-mail to my other two addresses. The same problem arose. I entered the first address as a Bcc:. Then after I pressed ENTER, the 2nd line came up as To:


Yes, I've heard of tcp/ip. IF my memory serves me it stands for Transaction control program / Internet packet. But, to be honest, when I was doing hardcore programming in the 1960s/ 1970s, it was mostly either mainframe assembler or FORTRAN, and the projects were very specific. I was also an active design engineer (electromechanical), but I never got into the internet even in its infancy. When I-B-M introduced the original PC in August, 1981, by October I shelled out the $2200 for one, and dabbled around with PC assembler a bit, but by then I was writing Ladder code for PLCs, and that's what I still do even though I've been retired for several years. I take small projects just to keep my mind occupied. It's fun to watch air cylinders go back & forth & up & down & in & out & watch all sorts of lites blink! THANX a lot for this latest attempt at a solution. By the way, I think I mentioned that earlier when you asked me to copy that data dump, I had to truncate the last batch of data since the file was larger than the space allotted for it.

Hi Matt, Two things: The locale of which you request is Florida, USA English (or American, whichever you prefer.) I did the steps that you asked, deleting the sessions.json file. Then I restarted T-BIRD. I have more than one e-mail address, so I attempted to send a test e-mail to my other two addresses. The same problem arose. I entered the first address as a Bcc:. Then after I pressed ENTER, the 2nd line came up as To: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yes, I've heard of tcp/ip. IF my memory serves me it stands for Transaction control program / Internet packet. But, to be honest, when I was doing hardcore programming in the 1960s/ 1970s, it was mostly either mainframe assembler or FORTRAN, and the projects were very specific. I was also an active design engineer (electromechanical), but I never got into the internet even in its infancy. When I-B-M introduced the original PC in August, 1981, by October I shelled out the $2200 for one, and dabbled around with PC assembler a bit, but by then I was writing Ladder code for PLCs, and that's what I still do even though I've been retired for several years. I take small projects just to keep my mind occupied. It's fun to watch air cylinders go back & forth & up & down & in & out & watch all sorts of lites blink! THANX a lot for this latest attempt at a solution. By the way, I think I mentioned that earlier when you asked me to copy that data dump, I had to truncate the last batch of data since the file was larger than the space allotted for it.

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Matt, I forgot to also mention that I DO have MALAWAREBYTES loaded on this PC. It's the MALAWARE FREE 3.6.1 version, and so I run it from time to time on my own. I don't believe that this "free" version is running in the background, but I'm probably wrong. But, it's been on this PC for a long time ... probably as long as T-BIRD. In addition, I also have MICROSOFT SECURITY ESSENTIALS, which does get updated automatically from time to time. Additionally, I have CCLEANER, which is a paid-subscription download, and because of that, it automatically downloads the definitions files, but it does pop up a window alerting me of this. Finally, I have SPYBOT, which I run periodically, although I've NOT done it in several weeks, mostly because I forget. The only other programs loaded are MICROSOFT WORD 2003, APACHE word processing suite, and some specialized PLC & microprocessor source code editor programs (ARDUINO, PARALLAX STAMP, SIEMENS PLCs, CLCIK PLCs, OMRON PLCs) and some utility programs for mundane things like a colour-correcting program (SPYDER) to calibrate the LCD monitor, and NERO for the CD/ DVD drive. And, you are already aware that it is WINDOWS 7 HOME PREMIUM.

Matt, I forgot to also mention that I DO have MALAWAREBYTES loaded on this PC. It's the MALAWARE FREE 3.6.1 version, and so I run it from time to time on my own. I don't believe that this "free" version is running in the background, but I'm probably wrong. But, it's been on this PC for a long time ... probably as long as T-BIRD. In addition, I also have MICROSOFT SECURITY ESSENTIALS, which does get updated automatically from time to time. Additionally, I have CCLEANER, which is a paid-subscription download, and because of that, it automatically downloads the definitions files, but it does pop up a window alerting me of this. Finally, I have SPYBOT, which I run periodically, although I've NOT done it in several weeks, mostly because I forget. The only other programs loaded are MICROSOFT WORD 2003, APACHE word processing suite, and some specialized PLC & microprocessor source code editor programs (ARDUINO, PARALLAX STAMP, SIEMENS PLCs, CLCIK PLCs, OMRON PLCs) and some utility programs for mundane things like a colour-correcting program (SPYDER) to calibrate the LCD monitor, and NERO for the CD/ DVD drive. And, you are already aware that it is WINDOWS 7 HOME PREMIUM.
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MATT!!!!

THANK YOU!, THANK YOU! THANK YOU!!!!! I installed the Ver 52.nn which you so kindly gave me the link for, and I tested it by sending a test e-mail to my 2 other addresses. Guess what?? After typing in the first address, and pressing ENTER, the box below also came up as Bcc: So, while you commented that no one else experienced this anomaly, it's obvious that retrograding to this earlier release solved the problem, and there is something in the Ver. 60 code which is working in concert with something else running in the background on WINDOWS to cause the problem I've experienced since day one. And, so that I won't be unpleasantly surprised in the future, I've changed the setting in the "Update" section of "Tools" to "Notify me before upgrade". For the foreseeable future, I will decline any announcements of future releases.

MATT!!!! THANK YOU!, THANK YOU! THANK YOU!!!!! I installed the Ver 52.nn which you so kindly gave me the link for, and I tested it by sending a test e-mail to my 2 other addresses. Guess what?? After typing in the first address, and pressing ENTER, the box below also came up as Bcc: So, while you commented that no one else experienced this anomaly, it's obvious that retrograding to this earlier release solved the problem, and there is something in the Ver. 60 code which is working in concert with something else running in the background on WINDOWS to cause the problem I've experienced since day one. And, so that I won't be unpleasantly surprised in the future, I've changed the setting in the "Update" section of "Tools" to "Notify me before upgrade". For the foreseeable future, I will decline any announcements of future releases.
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Thankfully the days of punched cards is long gone. Been there,

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Wayne,

 As you can see from my last post, Matt was kind enuf to send me a link to the last previous (stable) version BEFORE 60.  As soon as I downloaded it, and opened it, the first thing I did was to send a test e-mail to my two other addresses.  The Bcc: problem of Ver. 60 was solved.
 As we progressed with the dialogue about this problem, one of the techs mentioned that no one else had reported this "bug", but it's obvious that this PC has nothing "special" loaded, and WINDOWS 7 PRO is still a very popular op sys for millions of users, and the fact that Ver 52.9 works fine seems to indicate that there was a change made that has affected the section of code that deals with the labels for sending to addresses.

So, again, I say THANK YOU. At least the problem has been solved for me.

Wayne, As you can see from my last post, Matt was kind enuf to send me a link to the last previous (stable) version BEFORE 60. As soon as I downloaded it, and opened it, the first thing I did was to send a test e-mail to my two other addresses. The Bcc: problem of Ver. 60 was solved. As we progressed with the dialogue about this problem, one of the techs mentioned that no one else had reported this "bug", but it's obvious that this PC has nothing "special" loaded, and WINDOWS 7 PRO is still a very popular op sys for millions of users, and the fact that Ver 52.9 works fine seems to indicate that there was a change made that has affected the section of code that deals with the labels for sending to addresses. So, again, I say THANK YOU. At least the problem has been solved for me.