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Bookmark Descriptions Missing After Update?

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PLEASE BRING BACK BOOKMARK DESCRIPTIONS! I would love to know the reason for removal? You think it is redundant, but its very important to many people. This removal could quite literally force me to use Google Chrome exclusively Not happy with my preferred browser right now!

PLEASE BRING BACK BOOKMARK DESCRIPTIONS! I would love to know the reason for removal? You think it is redundant, but its very important to many people. This removal could quite literally force me to use Google Chrome exclusively Not happy with my preferred browser right now!

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Hi HiltonPreston, I understand that separating Descriptions from bookmarks is painful, but support volunteers can't change that; it's done. We can help with how to access the information going forward.

Export Bookmarks to a locally saved Web Page (HTML File)

Please see this article: Export Firefox bookmarks to an HTML file to back up or transfer bookmarks. That creates a web page, so you can open it in a Firefox tab, or in any browser. You'll notice the descriptions nested below the linked titles of the bookmarks that have descriptions.

Optional: Migrate Bookmarks to Zotero

There probably are a number of tools you could use to manage notes and annotations on your bookmarks. This is one of them.

Zotero is an open source bibliographic/research tool for collecting references. Zotero knows how to read a Firefox HTML bookmarks file and will preserve the descriptions. You can keep your storage purely local, or you can optionally sync with the Zotero cloud.

This is a one-way trip: you can send new references to Zotero from within Firefox using a Zotero add-on, but you won't be able to read/edit bookmark descriptions from within Firefox.

If you want to try it:

The Zotero research tool is available for Mac, Windows, and Linux from https://www.zotero.org/

When you import a bookmarks.html file, it creates entries for each page but it flattens the folder structure, so it comes out like this:

  • bookmarks.html, with top-level Bookmarks Menu items
    • Bookmarks Toolbar folder
    • Folder1
    • Folder2
    • Other Bookmarks folder

When you click a bookmark, Zotero displays the Title, URL, and "Abstract" which contains the imported Description. (Screenshot #1) Double-clicking the item will launch the page in the default browser.

Zotero also has an optional Firefox Connector webextension, which allow saving new pages to a Zotero collection (either under the bookmarks structure, or other folders the user created in Zotero). (Screenshot #2)

(I didn't look at cloud sync.)

Using a second program is less convenient than using Firefox features or a fully self-contained Firefox extension. However, it might suit your needs.

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jscher2000
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Sergey_2018 said

As an alternative to the innovations of firefox, you can consider the browser TOR(https://www.torproject.org/projects/torbrowser.html.en) or Waterfox(http://waterfoxproject.org/), made on the engine Mozilla. They have a description field. The truth is not known how long these browsers will support the description.

According to https://www.torproject.org/projects/torbrowser.html.en:

What is in Tor Browser?
It contains Tor, a modified Firefox ESR, Torbutton, TorLauncher, NoScript, and HTTPS-Everywhere. Read the design document, the ChangeLog for the branch maint-7.5, and the ChangeLog for the alpha branch.

So I think you can expect the TOR browser to support the Description field as long as the Extended Support Release of Firefox supports it.

''Sergey_2018 [[#answer-1154479|said]]'' <blockquote> As an alternative to the innovations of firefox, you can consider the browser TOR(https://www.torproject.org/projects/torbrowser.html.en) or Waterfox(http://waterfoxproject.org/), made on the engine Mozilla. They have a description field. The truth is not known how long these browsers will support the description. </blockquote> According to [https://www.torproject.org/projects/torbrowser.html.en]: <blockquote><p><strong><em>What is in Tor Browser?</em></strong> <br>It contains Tor, a modified [https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/ Firefox ESR], Torbutton, TorLauncher, NoScript, and HTTPS-Everywhere. Read the [https://www.torproject.org/projects/torbrowser/design/ design document], the [https://gitweb.torproject.org/builders/tor-browser-build.git/tree/projects/tor-browser/Bundle-Data/Docs/ChangeLog.txt?h=maint-7.5 ChangeLog for the branch maint-7.5], and the [https://gitweb.torproject.org/builders/tor-browser-build.git/tree/projects/tor-browser/Bundle-Data/Docs/ChangeLog.txt ChangeLog for the alpha branch].</p> </blockquote> So I think you can expect the TOR browser to support the Description field as long as [https://www.mozilla.org/firefox/organizations/faq/ the Extended Support Release of Firefox] supports it.
Sergey_2018 0 Lösungen 10 Antworten
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the-edmeister said

Sergey_2018 said
It's a shame that developers of firefox do not even explain why they removed the description field.

What difference would it make now? The "ship has sailed" - IOW that Description field is gone from Firefox already.

Plus the "job description" for developer doesn't include justifying changes made in Firefox to end users of Firefox. But that has been explained in multiple different support threads by more than one support contributor in this forum over the last 6 or 7 weeks already; starting back when the change was spotted in the Fx 62 Beta build stage long before Fx 62 was released.

Health!

Chrome does not have a description of the bookmarks, just like all Windows browsers that integrate into the system. And it's very inconvenient.

In our world, no one owes nothing to anyone. But if you position your work as a work for the consumer, be kind enough to explain what and why you are doing, as well as not just listen to the opinions of this very consumer but also put them at the head of your work. Yes, the train left. But how much negativity has poured onto the developer's head? After all, a simply motivated explanation of one's actions immediately removes most of the tension.

All the best. With respect.

''the-edmeister [[#answer-1154599|said]]'' <blockquote> ''Sergey_2018 [[#answer-1154479|said]]'' <blockquote> It's a shame that developers of firefox do not even explain why they removed the description field. </blockquote> '''What difference would it make now?''' The "ship has sailed" - IOW that Description field is gone from Firefox already. Plus the "job description" for developer doesn't include justifying changes made in Firefox to end users of Firefox. But that has been explained in multiple different support threads by more than one support contributor in this forum over the last 6 or 7 weeks already; starting back when the change was spotted in the Fx 62 Beta build stage long before Fx 62 was released. </blockquote> Health! Chrome does not have a description of the bookmarks, just like all Windows browsers that integrate into the system. And it's very inconvenient. In our world, no one owes nothing to anyone. But if you position your work as a work for the consumer, be kind enough to explain what and why you are doing, as well as not just listen to the opinions of this very consumer but also put them at the head of your work. Yes, the train left. But how much negativity has poured onto the developer's head? After all, a simply motivated explanation of one's actions immediately removes most of the tension. All the best. With respect.
amznrandy 1 Lösungen 30 Antworten
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Ed, you're wrong and you aren't moderate. Perhaps you need to relax. A developer doesn't need to justify changes but they should make sure they are good changes. Perhaps Mozilla could be more like Apple and let people know what the next changes are going to entail. It does mean that people should stop using automatic upgrades!! Wait for awhile after an upgrade and see what the problems are. Meanwhile, back at the ranch:

How to get 'er back. First off Mozilla is going the way of Microsoft and doing it their way and not how you want it. To get back you "properties" with all the remarks in them you will have to go backwards. I just did this the other day when I found more complaints. The version you will end up with is 60.2.0esr (extended service release) which is for corporations that can't upgrade all the time. If you go to: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/all/ pick you language and operating system, download the file (it should say firefox setup 60.2.0esr) and then install it. I didn't even have to delete the 62.0 as it installed right over it. I have my properties back with all the notes still in them. Mozilla may not like this reply and delete it. Hope it helps you as it worked for me.

Ed, you're wrong and you aren't moderate. Perhaps you need to relax. A developer doesn't need to justify changes but they should make sure they are good changes. Perhaps Mozilla could be more like Apple and let people know what the next changes are going to entail. It does mean that people should stop using automatic upgrades!! Wait for awhile after an upgrade and see what the problems are. Meanwhile, back at the ranch: How to get 'er back. First off Mozilla is going the way of Microsoft and doing it their way and not how you want it. To get back you "properties" with all the remarks in them you will have to go backwards. I just did this the other day when I found more complaints. The version you will end up with is 60.2.0esr (extended service release) which is for corporations that can't upgrade all the time. If you go to: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/all/ pick you language and operating system, download the file (it should say firefox setup 60.2.0esr) and then install it. I didn't even have to delete the 62.0 as it installed right over it. I have my properties back with all the notes still in them. Mozilla may not like this reply and delete it. Hope it helps you as it worked for me.

Fragesteller

Two thoughts come to mind after all of this:

1) There is virtually clarification on WHY this field was removed, almost like they are afraid admit to a vulnerability or something. Is just odd!

2) Why not remove the field or have it hidden by default, but at least give an option to make use of it/restore it.

My 2 cents.

Two thoughts come to mind after all of this: 1) There is virtually clarification on WHY this field was removed, almost like they are afraid admit to a vulnerability or something. Is just odd! 2) Why not remove the field or have it hidden by default, but at least give an option to make use of it/restore it. My 2 cents.
amznrandy 1 Lösungen 30 Antworten
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HiltonPreston, Here is a description of what Firefox esr is right from a Mozilla page: What is Mozilla Firefox ESR?

Mozilla will offer an Extended Support Release (ESR) based on a regular release of Firefox for desktop for use by organizations including schools, universities, businesses and others who need extended support for mass deployments.

I figure if it's good enough for schools, universities, businesses and others, it's good enough for me. I might be wrong but won't let Mozilla automatically update EVER again. Better to wait and see what all the problems are instead of getting all upset. My heart may just not be able to take it.

HiltonPreston, Here is a description of what Firefox esr is right from a Mozilla page: What is Mozilla Firefox ESR? Mozilla will offer an Extended Support Release (ESR) based on a regular release of Firefox for desktop for use by organizations including schools, universities, businesses and others who need extended support for mass deployments. I figure if it's good enough for schools, universities, businesses and others, it's good enough for me. I might be wrong but won't let Mozilla automatically update EVER again. Better to wait and see what all the problems are instead of getting all upset. My heart may just not be able to take it.
jscher2000
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amznrandy said

I might be wrong but won't let Mozilla automatically update EVER again. Better to wait and see what all the problems are instead of getting all upset. My heart may just not be able to take it.

Hi amznrandy, maybe you missed my comment earlier in this thread:

jscher2000 said

Users who cannot live without this feature could consider switching from the regular release of Firefox to the Extended Support Release of Firefox 60. It will have feature stability and get critical security updates for 10-12 months, so this change won't come until next Fall. Firefox 61.x, on the other hand, won't get any security updates.

While Firefox ESR was designed for businesses, there's nothing to stop individuals from using it. There is an article about it here: Switch to Firefox Extended Support Release (ESR) for personal use.

If anyone tries this, please make a backup first -- Back up and restore information in Firefox profiles -- and let us know how it works out.

So you should set Firefox to let you choose when to install updates, and then you can confirm each one as it becomes available that it's within the Firefox 60 ESR series and not the next major update.

As for what Firefox 68 will look like, I have no idea.

''amznrandy [[#answer-1155326|said]]'' <blockquote>I might be wrong but won't let Mozilla automatically update EVER again. Better to wait and see what all the problems are instead of getting all upset. My heart may just not be able to take it. </blockquote> Hi amznrandy, maybe you missed my comment earlier in this thread: ''jscher2000 [[#answer-1152466|said]]'' <blockquote> Users who cannot live without this feature could consider switching from the regular release of Firefox to the Extended Support Release of Firefox 60. '''It will have feature stability and get critical security updates for 10-12 months, so this change won't come until next Fall.''' Firefox 61.x, on the other hand, won't get any security updates. <br><br> While Firefox ESR was designed for businesses, there's nothing to stop individuals from using it. There is an article about it here: [[Switch to Firefox Extended Support Release (ESR) for personal use]]. <br><br> If anyone tries this, please make a backup first -- [[Back up and restore information in Firefox profiles]] -- and let us know how it works out. </blockquote> So you should set Firefox to let you choose when to install updates, and then you can confirm each one as it becomes available that it's within the Firefox 60 ESR series and not the next major update. As for what Firefox 68 will look like, I have no idea.

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user633449 1539 Lösungen 10745 Antworten
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I'm going to lock this thread as it's turned into insults and name calling. The bookmarks description was removed, there are several workable alternatives. ESR is not meant for home use, updates should not be disabled.

I'm sorry for the confusion and the controversy, but the decision has been made and won't be reversed. Please use one of the alternatives above.

I'm going to lock this thread as it's turned into insults and name calling. The bookmarks description was removed, there are several workable alternatives. ESR is not meant for home use, updates should not be disabled. I'm sorry for the confusion and the controversy, but the decision has been made and won't be reversed. Please use one of the alternatives above.