Shin_Gallon said

Apparently in the newer versions, the option to have the tab bar below the address bar where it belongs is no longer available. Is this still true in Firefox 35 or are they still only removing options that I require in a browser?

No, I don't think they allow it. Sometimes you can get a plugin to fix this.

MozillaSupportTeam-Ben said

Shin_Gallon said

Apparently in the newer versions, the option to have the tab bar below the address bar where it belongs is no longer available. Is this still true in Firefox 35 or are they still only removing options that I require in a browser?

No, I don't think they allow it. Sometimes you can get a plugin to fix this.

Ugh. I shouldn't have to install a plugin to restore an option that should never have been removed in the first place.

You can move the tabs to the lower position just above the browsing area without using an extension with code in userChrome.css because you only need to give the Tab bar a higher -moz-box-ordinal-group value (most toolbars have a default -moz-box-ordinal-group:1 to show them in DOM order).

• [/questions/997353] How can I put the Tabs back below the navigation bar?

Add code to the userChrome.css file below the default @namespace line.

• http://kb.mozillazine.org/userChrome.css

@namespace url("http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul"); /* only needed once */

#TabsToolbar{-moz-box-ordinal-group:10000!important}

The customization files userChrome.css (user interface) and userContent.css (websites) are located in the chrome folder in the Firefox profile folder.

• http://kb.mozillazine.org/Editing_configuration

You can use this button to go to the currently used Firefox profile folder:

• Help > Troubleshooting Information > Profile Directory: Show Folder (Linux: Open Directory; Mac: Show in Finder)
• http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_folder_-_Firefox

• Create the chrome folder (lowercase) in the <xxxxxxxx>.default profile folder if this folder doesn't exist
• Use a plain text editor like Notepad to create a (new) userChrome.css file in the chrome folder (file name is case sensitive)
• Paste the code in the userChrome.css file in the editor window
• Make sure that the userChrome.css file starts with the default @namespace line
• Make sure that you select "All files" and not "Text files" when you save the file via "Save file as" in the text editor as userChrome.css.
  Otherwise Windows may add a hidden .txt file extension and you end up with a not working userChrome.css.txt file

cor-el said

You can move the tabs to the lower position just above the browsing area without using an extension with code in userChrome.css because you only need to give the Tab bar a higher -moz-box-ordinal-group value (most toolbars have a default -moz-box-ordinal-group:1 to show them in DOM order).

• [/questions/997353] How can I put the Tabs back below the navigation bar?

Add code to the userChrome.css file below the default @namespace line.

• http://kb.mozillazine.org/userChrome.css

---

@namespace url("https://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul"); /* only needed once */

#TabsToolbar{-moz-box-ordinal-group:10000!important}

---

The customization files userChrome.css (user interface) and userContent.css (websites) are located in the chrome folder in the Firefox profile folder.

• http://kb.mozillazine.org/Editing_configuration

You can use this button to go to the currently used Firefox profile folder:

• Help > Troubleshooting Information > Profile Directory: Show Folder (Linux: Open Directory; Mac: Show in Finder)
• http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_folder_-_Firefox

• Create the chrome folder (lowercase) in the <xxxxxxxx>.default profile folder if this folder doesn't exist
• Use a plain text editor like Notepad to create a (new) userChrome.css file in the chrome folder (file name is case sensitive)
• Paste the code in the userChrome.css file in the editor window
• Make sure that the userChrome.css file starts with the default @namespace line
• Make sure that you select "All files" and not "Text files" when you save the file via "Save file as" in the text editor as userChrome.css.
  Otherwise Windows may add a hidden .txt file extension and you end up with a not working userChrome.css.txt file

That's...a ludicrous amount of work to have something that should be in the about:config files, but I'll give it a shot. Thanks.

It is only three steps:

1. go to the profile folder, possibly via the button on the Help > Troubleshooting Information page, close Firefox
2. create the chrome folder if it doesn't exist
3. create the userChrome.css file with the above posted content pasted in it

Note that the names are case sensitive

Going from Fx25 to Fx35 you might like to explore this extension - among many options it can set "Tabs not on top" -

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/classicthemerestorer/

Classic Theme Restorer does not have the visual appearance I want. Visually I want the browser to look like this image. Unless Classic Theme Restorer also allows full Complete Themes to be applied with it as well? That style, that look, that right there is exactly what I want. With tabs below the address bar where they should be. Why is it so hard to grasp that maybe we have our browsers set up a certain way for a reason and don't like being forced to jump through 20 hoops just to keep them up to date, yet still function the same way?

If you don't like the direction that Mozilla is taking Firefox with all the UI changes and such, just "vote with your feet" and stop using Firefox! Maybe when Mozilla loses a good number of users (actually lose more than they have already lost) over user displeasure over the new UI and the Rapid Release scheme, maybe then they'll start paying attention to what Firefox users expect Firefox to look like and stop changing it so much and so frequently!

Biotching to here to other Firefox users in this forum serves little purpose, except to allow you to vent. Keep in mind that many of the users who do support here have already heard the same complaints over the last 9 months, and some of us have been "dealing with" the new UI for close to 3 years now - as it was being developed on the Nightly channel since about the time that Firefox 4.0 was first released to the public!

Personally, I may hate the new UI as much or more than you do, but I like the "Tabs on Top" feature AND I have been using a "two- toolbar" interface (Tab Bar and Navigation Bar), along with hiding the Title Bar - since before Firefox 1.0 was released. But I don't have a Mac with the huge screen resolution; I build my own Linux / Windows PCs for less than $250 from the clearance tables in retail stores or online close-outs - so screen "real estate" is precious to me on a Hot Friday sale 13" widescreen monitor that I picked up 5 years ago for $55.

In conclusion, "we" can help you toward modifing your Firefox installation to restore as much as possible from the old UI, but you're gonna have to "suck it up" and do the work yourself if you don't like the pre-packaged solutions such as the Classic Theme Restorer extension.