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The I-do-not-like-Firefox-29-layout topic

(For Forum Moderators: Please read /forums/forum-moderators/710264?last=59300) Moderators, please read first before closing/removing this topic right away? To those want… (read more)

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Moderators, please read first before closing/removing this topic right away?
To those wanting to react here on this topic: please, also read ;)
Since my original posting https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/997009 was closed because one of the moderators felt it was going off-topic (although it was red a lot and had 131 "have-this-problem" in just a few days), here a kind of re-opening but on-topic.
Why? Because I feel we have the right to express our feelings on this major change. And publicly there is actually only this forum where that can be done on the Mozilla.org domain.
Sure, the change is there and we have to live with it (if we choose to). But that doesn't mean we can not have our voice here because after many, many years of supporting FF with our use, we suddenly are facing a layout we were always running away from.
So yes, that can cause ranting and so on (within the forum rules of course) because people feel strongly about there beloved browser.
(edit rules link note the whole topic is ordinarily outside the scope of the forum ... Posts in the Mozilla support forum must be either questions about the use of Firefox, ... Users who post about things other than Mozilla support will be directed to an alternative discussion place .... . ~J99)

Plus this way you can centralize all the negatives here instead of a lot of separate postings about the same subject ;)
To the people reacting here in this topic: there is only 1 real way to let Mozilla itself know how you feel on the new lay out and that is not through this forum. The way is to go to https://input.mozilla.org/feedback/ and let it know there.
edit You need to use a supported Firefox to post Feedback so that will soon not be possible from Fx28 2nd edit. I was wrong feedback works with any version of Fiefpx now~J99

And I think when that is done in normal words (so no f*ck you rants and so on) and suggestions, then maybe, just maybe, it has some effect.
Also, there is an Mozilla support page with info on how to get the "old look" back, see How to make the new Firefox look like the old FirefoxBut it will only partly restore the old look, certain FF29 things can not be changed.

And yes, I myself am back to Firefox 28 which is not supported or suggested by Mozilla because it has things (bugs and security) that are not fixed in it. (Edit Please use Official downloads if you must downgrade links in Install an older version of Firefox and the growing list of exploits you will open yourself up to is listed here: https://www.mozilla.org/security/known-vulnerabilities/firefox.html ~J99)

I am not suggesting or advertising to others to do the same. It is a risk I am willing to take and only say it is an option.
edit My reason to go back to FF 28 is because that version still has the intuitive feel and look Firefox one was praised for. With a logical lay out and a good way to simply customize it (also in about:config).
For those who say/think "Come one man, stop whining! Grow up and just accept that Firefox has to go with its time!", to them I say: nope ;)

First edit Modified May 10, 2014 7:54:58 PM BST by John99
2nd: re feedback

Asked by meegja 6 years ago

Answered by meegja 6 years ago

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Firefox 28 stops responding at Facebook dynamic search.

Whenever I use Facebook dynamic search, Firefox stops responding. This issue also involves writing a new post/comment using the at-sign, which starts dynamic user search.… (read more)

Whenever I use Facebook dynamic search, Firefox stops responding. This issue also involves writing a new post/comment using the at-sign, which starts dynamic user search.

  • Before update from FF27 to FF28 it did not happen. (I use Windows 7.)
  • Safe mode does not help.
  • Clearing cache and deleting Facebook cookies does not help. Neither new profile nor clean install helps.
  • There are no crash reports within Firefox as well as no Windows error logs generated.
  • Other browsers on this computer do not have this problem, another computer with FF28 that I use works well. Firefox 28 on this computer with Ubuntu Linux works.

Edit: I got Firefox not responding even at going through conversations (messages). So I can generalize that any operation at Facebook, during which three "waiting" bars appear, can lead to the not-responding state of Firefox.

Asked by xmrazik 6 years ago

Last reply by John99 6 years ago

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Firefox is unbearably slow after updating to version 27

After updating to Firefox 27 all webpages take a few dozen seconds to several minutes to load. When loading a webpage Firefox's status displays "connecting" and the CPU … (read more)

After updating to Firefox 27 all webpages take a few dozen seconds to several minutes to load. When loading a webpage Firefox's status displays "connecting" and the CPU gets maxed out with 95 to 100% of its cycles taking by Firefox.

The computer is older so it is a little slow but Internet Explorer 8 has no trouble opening the webpages and neither do other computers on the LAN so it is not a network issue. I have tried restarting Firefox, disabling add-ons, deleting add-ons, disabling hardware acceleration, restarting the computer, and reinstalling Firefox after wiping every trace of it and its user data from the hard drive and registry.

CPU: AMD Athlon 2800+ 2.08GHz RAM: 1GB OS: Windows XP Home Edition Service Pack 3 32bit


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(Modified April 30, 2014 12:11:58 PM BST by John99 ) ~J99
Rather a long thread so I will add some comments here where easily seen.

 Modified June 18, 2014 6:08:41 AM PDT by John99

Asked by hj21c1yg 6 years ago

Last reply by petef 5 years ago

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Shockwave Flash crashing

Shockwave Flash 12.0.0.77 keeps crashing. It was only installed on 14 March 2014 and I am told it is up to date. I am running Firefox 28.0 on Windows 7 home premium. The … (read more)

Shockwave Flash 12.0.0.77 keeps crashing. It was only installed on 14 March 2014 and I am told it is up to date. I am running Firefox 28.0 on Windows 7 home premium.

The message I get is Warning: Unresponsive Plugin Shockwave Flash maybe busy, or it may have stopped responding, <snip>

I used to get this with an older version of Shockwave Flash and an older verison of Firefox, but in the last few days it has started to happen again (since I updated Firefox to the latest version).

Asked by BarrieAvis 6 years ago

Answered by cor-el 6 years ago

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plugin check not working

The Firefox plugin checker is reporting "vulnerable - Update Now" for my Java Deployment Toolkit 7.0.510.13. and Java(TM) Platform SE 7 U51 plugins. The 'update now' link… (read more)

The Firefox plugin checker is reporting "vulnerable - Update Now" for my Java Deployment Toolkit 7.0.510.13. and Java(TM) Platform SE 7 U51 plugins.

The 'update now' link takes me to the Java download page which invites me to download the latest Plugin 7.51. but i already have 7.51 installed so the plugin checker is incorrectly displaying "vulnerable - Update Now". I have had 7.51 installed since January 17th and run the plugin checker on a weekly basis so i'm not sure why it has suddenly decided that this is a vulnerable plugin.

I am running Firefox 28.0 on Windows 7

thanks ...

Asked by richlaughlin 6 years ago

Last reply by AliceWyman 6 years ago

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Firefox 29 fails to exit properly and remains running in task manager.

This is a continuation of a thread found here: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/997448 by Compumind. I reported I was having the same experience, especially wh… (read more)

This is a continuation of a thread found here: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/997448 by Compumind.

I reported I was having the same experience, especially when opening links from emails in Thunderbird. I also reported I was forced to revert to FF 28.

Moses replied in above thread and suggested: (1) Download a fresh installer from https://www.mozilla.org/firefox/all/ to a convenient location. (Scroll down to your preferred language.)

(2) Exit out of Firefox.

(3) Rename the folder

C:\Program Files (x86)\Mozilla Firefox

to

C:\Program Files (x86)\OldFirefox

(4) Run the installer you downloaded in #1. It should automatically connect to your existing settings.

I followed these instruction carefully but no joy. Upon installing FF 29, not only would it refuse to exit (using "exit") and remain running in the Task Manager until I killed it after opening links from Thunderbird, but I found it refused to exit after simple browsing and following links.

Moses had asked I not reply in original thread so I am re-posting here.

I believe this is a serious bug. With Firefox 28...no problems except a minor one I reported here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1002089

Again I am forced back to FF 28, though I miss the beautiful interface and security fixes, I need to have a browser that works properly. My wife has never even seen the Task Manager before so this is problem.

Besides the "educated guesses" made with this post, the only other thing outside of usual that I do, is to have a security policy regarding cookies (don't accept by default...I make exceptions for cookies I want to retain and have a several that are only "allow for session.") I also have FF set to delete browsing history on exit, but that takes a split second.

I look forward to when this issue can be addressed successfully and I am able to use FF 29 (and have it exit properly...I can't expect my wife to follow all these instructions and close it often manually in the task manager...nor do I want to do this.)

Good luck on all the Mozilla projects. Having installed FF 29 twice and then reverted back to 28 twice, I am going to wait and see how this plays out. Please don't send me the standard, "start in safe mode", "restart with add-ons disabled", "reset Firefox" (last time that destroyed my browser completely) stuff. I do not believe this is what's happening.

Moses added that there is a problem with email notifications going through, so take your time, friends.

Asked by Axis 6 years ago

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Hangs, severe slowness and lock-ups running Firefox 27.0 / 28.0 on Windows XP / Is it possible to block plug-in container?

Been experiencing severe slowness and lock-ups with Firefox of late, which ends with a sudden drop in memory usage and me having to repeatedly shut it down through Task M… (read more)

Been experiencing severe slowness and lock-ups with Firefox of late, which ends with a sudden drop in memory usage and me having to repeatedly shut it down through Task Manager. I have created a new profile and disabled hardware acceleration. I have tried disabling all plug-ins and extensions, yet I noticed that at times (not always) plug-in container was still an active process, which I don't understand. Why would it be active when there are no enabled plug-ins? I also noticed that when plug-in container is not active (showing under Processes in Task Manager) I do not have this problem and Firefox runs normally? I need to block plug-in container. Please help.

Asked by janice.lynne 6 years ago

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How do I make new tabs open as my home page, not the old Firefox start up page?

Under Tools > Options > General, my Firefox home page is set to: https://www.google.com/. When I open a new tab, the page opens up to the old Firefox Start/Google … (read more)

Under Tools > Options > General, my Firefox home page is set to: https://www.google.com/. When I open a new tab, the page opens up to the old Firefox Start/Google home page. The address shows: www.google.com/firefox. In the middle of this screen reads, "You're not on the latest version of Firefox. Upgrade today to get the best of the Web!" I have the latest version of Firefox. Why aren't my tabs opening up as my initial home page opens up to: https://www.google.com/? I was looking to add a screenshot of my home page and the tabs home page, but I don't see an option to do that.

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eveytime i open firefox another window opens bogabids why?)

there was a video update for firefox and i installed it and now when i start firefox other windows start as well for example ,bogabids,poker, fix your windows 7....this d… (read more)

there was a video update for firefox and i installed it and now when i start firefox other windows start as well for example ,bogabids,poker, fix your windows 7....this did not happen before the update please help.

Thanks Mike

Asked by Mikek2700 6 years ago

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Firefox slow down (stuttering) on reaching 1.5GB memory.

I am having problem with Firefox -- as I keep using it (opening more tabs and stuff) it grows in memory usage. I think there might be leaks somewhere, but that is not by … (read more)

I am having problem with Firefox -- as I keep using it (opening more tabs and stuff) it grows in memory usage. I think there might be leaks somewhere, but that is not by itself a problem -- I have plenty of memory.

However I repeatedly observe that upon reaching approximately 1.5GB of memory usage Firefox starts 'micro stuttering' -- scrolling is nowhere as smooth as it is when it just started, text input is not smooth and so on. This is supremely annoying. Firefox restart completely fixes the issue (until the next time), but it is also not a terribly convenient solution (tabs have to reload next time etc.).

This is observed both on Firefox 24 ESR and Firefox 28. The difference is that Firefox 28 takes much longer to reach 1.5GB barrier (so apparently there have been some optimizations).

I do use a bunch of addons. However disabling them is not really an option because I find 'clean' Firefox pretty much unusable (I'm coming from Opera 12).

I'd like to provide memory reports (from about:memory) however I need to understand how to anonymize them (they appear to contain lots of URLs some of which I'd rather not share).

Can these reports be used to pinpoint misbehaving addon (if there's one)?

Also -- are there 64 bit builds of Firefox 24 or 28? Basically non-alpha stuff with old-style UI? (I've downloaded some kind of alpha 64bit for FF 31 but it looks completely different and I'd rather not deal with it while it's still in alpha)

Asked by Solf 6 years ago

Last reply by John99 6 years ago

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Importing exact firefox version and bookmarks from one computer to another

Just got a new computer, really excited, but heard that firefox changed and I don't like the firefoxes that I see in recent computers. I'm still using an old windows xp … (read more)

Just got a new computer, really excited, but heard that firefox changed and I don't like the firefoxes that I see in recent computers.

I'm still using an old windows xp computer, with firefox 28 I believe.

My new computer is a windows 8.1, and it has all the new bells and whistles. My current version of firefox on XP looks like this:

http://i.imgur.com/nnRjFFk.png

Basic, very simple, just the way I like it. I just want my add-ons and my bookmarks, with everything placed in exactly the same way as it is in that picture (a friend of mine's firefox actually has the home/refresh/stop buttons on the right, what the heck?)

Want to know what's the step by step actions I need to undertake to transfer my firefox as soon as possible and start using my new computer. Would appreciate the help thank you.

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unable to log in to my blog

When I try to log in to my blog, all the information is cleared I have tried all the support answers and trouble shooting and nothing will correct the problem. I have bee… (read more)

When I try to log in to my blog, all the information is cleared

I have tried all the support answers and trouble shooting and nothing will correct the problem.

I have been trying to correct this problem for about 5 hours

Asked by MistyRain 6 years ago

Answered by MistyRain 6 years ago

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FF opens without me starting it when computer starts with unwanted Bing tab or tabs

When I start my computer, sometimes FF starts by itself and there are 1 or more unwanted Bing tabs. It seems to only happen when the date has changed, never a second time… (read more)

When I start my computer, sometimes FF starts by itself and there are 1 or more unwanted Bing tabs. It seems to only happen when the date has changed, never a second time on the same date. Please answer in easy, plain English. Thanks, Bernadine

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I need to restore my browser history

So, the computer I'm using had a computer virus that needed removing. We took the computer to "Microcenter" (computer experts) & they removed the virus. The thing is,… (read more)

So, the computer I'm using had a computer virus that needed removing. We took the computer to "Microcenter" (computer experts) & they removed the virus. The thing is, in the process of removing the virus, they got rid of all my browser history (at least from the sidebar of the browser window). So, was wondering if there was any possible way of getting it back or finding it? Please. If anyone could help me, I would really appreciate it. Thanks.

Asked by cje24576 6 years ago

Last reply by cor-el 6 years ago

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tabs below

(Removed beta link to 28. -m) All the current changes for firefox seem oriented towards the tab computer market but unfortunately these tab computers are way to slow and … (read more)

(Removed beta link to 28. -m)

All the current changes for firefox seem oriented towards the tab computer market but unfortunately these tab computers are way to slow and underperform compared dramaticly compared to my desktop computer. Having tabs below is what makes my system functionality and workflow perform at its best. I often have up to 100 tabs open at a time when doing research but with every change by firefox this ability is more and more taken away. from right click send emails and now tabs cant be placed below its time for firefox to decide if its time for two different versions of there product to be made. One for the desktop and a seperate version for tablet computers. Having tabs above the address bar is just plain stupid when you have 100 tabs open ie it just doesnt work. My pc has 64 gigs of ram and a 6 cor processor and with every itereation of firefox for the past 4 years my ability to use the ability of my PC has been more and more removed. I seem to have no choice but to revert to an earlier version of firfox in order to at least keep some of the former functionality. I dont use touch functionality and yet the latest version seems complllletelly oriented towards touch computers and thats great but its been done at the expence of people like me who will never use this type of feature. Time to creat two seperate versions of Firfox one for people like me who have realy powerfull computers and many many many tabs open at a time and one for the tablet pc touch people who only have 1 or 2 tabs open at a time.

Asked by ikeepbees 6 years ago

Last reply by the-edmeister 5 years ago

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Why would Malwarebytes shows potential threat to Firefox Profile

Recently I installed Malwarebytes (free version) and after scan it detect Firefox profile. What could be the threat by Firefox I can't understand? Any advice, suggestion … (read more)

Recently I installed Malwarebytes (free version) and after scan it detect Firefox profile. What could be the threat by Firefox I can't understand?

Any advice, suggestion or help will be appreciated.

Thank you PS may be after posting I will be able to post screen shots.

Asked by Ari94 6 years ago

Answered by jscher2000 6 years ago

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My add-ons disabled themselves and I can't enable them.

Out of suddenly, all of my add-ons expect Adblock Plus disabled and I can't enable them, and I didn't change nothing on my laptop at that time. I tried to do Troubleshoot… (read more)

Out of suddenly, all of my add-ons expect Adblock Plus disabled and I can't enable them, and I didn't change nothing on my laptop at that time. I tried to do Troubleshooting Information, restart my laptop, uninstall and install Mozilla twice, by deleting even all files about Mozilla, but nothing worked. I even tried to do a system restore, but it don't worked because it has a problem in a file! Useful info: When I install again the Mozilla and I install again the add-ons, they are enable and they are working fine, but when I close the browser and open it again, the add-ons are disabled again... And I don't know if that means something, but I have also problem to do the Windows Updates the last week, it can't complete. I have Windows 7 x64 and the lasted edition of Mozilla Firefox. Any ideas?

P.S. English isn't my first language, so sorry if I did any mistakes.

Asked by AthinaSmile 6 years ago

Answered by cor-el 6 years ago

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Video issues...

Hello! I've exhausted my resources trying to work around a bug between HTML5 player and Firefox, and I was hoping you could help. My embedded videos, which primarily use… (read more)

Hello!

I've exhausted my resources trying to work around a bug between HTML5 player and Firefox, and I was hoping you could help.

My embedded videos, which primarily uses HTML5 player plays back extremely choppy with Firefox (when in full screen). I spent several hours consulting with lead technicians at Vimeo, and they informed me that there is an incompatibility with Firefox and HTML5. I then had a developer code the site to use Flash for Firefox, and HTML5 for all other browsers. Now my CSS for the videos no longer works, and I'm still trying to figure out a work around for this as well.

This does not feel good to use older technology to get my videos to work properly, especially since I've always seen Firefox as cutting edge (it's my favorite browser, you know ;)). I really wish I could go back to using HTML5 for ALL of my browsers, but I really cannot have the videos playing choppy.

Is there any information you could offer to help? I surely would appreciate it.

My website is thenourishedcook.com/dev. This is the last item to be completed before the site goes officially life. Hopefully soon!  :)

Thank you kindly, Sharon

Asked by sharongraylac 6 years ago

Last reply by Gingerbread Man 6 years ago